SNJ-3 Texan: 1/48 Modelcraft or Revell (Game time decision)

Started by George R Blair Jr · 232 · 1 year ago
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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    How do you eat an elephant, George (@gblair)?

    One bite at a time. 🙂

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Nice work on the masking, George @gblair
    i do fully agree on your statement about vacuform canopies.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Thanks, Eric (@eb801), Tom (@tcinla), and John (@johnb). I think the canopy masking chore is done, and all that remains before painting is to cover the open areas of the cockpit. I plan to see if the kit canopies can be used as a mask for the open cockpit areas. In theory, they should work, but you know how that goes. I need to get a plan of attack for replicating the interesting layers of camo on this plane. More later. Cheers.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Start to lurch forward into painting. I got the canopies all masked for painting, then sprayed the interior color over all of the frames. I was hoping to start spraying some of the camouflage colors, but I decided to spray some Tamiya Fine Gray primer over everything to unify the various fillers I have used, as well as the kit's lemon yellow plastic. I plan to let everything dry overnight, then jump into the camouflage tomorrow. I am still trying to figure out the colors on this plane. The Sullivan book caption for the photo I am using indicated that it was a heavily worn and faded 3-color camouflage, mainly due to the light colored vertical tail. I can't see any evidence of 3-color camouflage anywhere except the tail. I think the fuselage and wings are the 2-color camouflage. So, my thought now is that this plane is a heavily weathered 2-color camouflage with an out-of-place light-colored tail. I think at some point the left wing was replaced with one that was paint overall navy blue. I'll see what comes out of my airbrush tomorrow. Cheers everyone.

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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    That airplane in the photo is not painted in a three-tone finish. It's painted in early war blue-grey over light grey. The left outer wing has been repainted (or was replaced by a new wing, it bolts on to the center section so it's easy to do) with fresh (or at least unfaded, which would be the case with a replacement wing stored inside til used) blue-grey. There were no SNJs in three color camo. Some were painted with camo early in the war - that vertical fin and rudder being so faded leads me to think the rest of the airplane was at one time repainted with blue-grey, but there is no way that color is either sea blue or intermediate blue.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Looks excellent so far, my friend @gblair! Looking forward to your painting!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    The primer on does make it look a lot better indeed, George @gblair

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Thanks, Tom (@tcinla), Spiros (@fiveten), and John (@johnb). I should be moving into painting today.

    Here are my thoughts about the camouflage: The caption for the color photo of this plane in the Sullivan book only talks about the dark color of the outer left wing. The caption for this same photo, but in black and white, in T-6 in Action by Larry Davis indicated it was a well-worn 3-color camouflage. I suspect this conclusion is based on the light gray tail, which would be a part of the 3--color camouflage. When I started planning my painting yesterday, I couldn't find any signs of 3-color camouflage other than the tail. I can't explain the light color on the tail, but I have decided to do a weathered 2-color camouflage with a new navy blue outer wing panel on the left wing (or perhaps a new blue-gray wing panel), with an unexplained light gray vertical tail. I like this particular plane because the paint doesn't quite fit the precise 2-color category.

    Cheers everyone.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Your color approach seems to be the best way forward, George @gblair
    Looking forward to how that turns out.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Looking forward to your painting, my friend @gblair!

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Thanks, John (@johnb) and Spiros (@fiveten). I planned to paint today, but I hit a small snag. I got some AK Real Colors bundled together for Early WW2 US Navy colors, which should have included Lt Gray, Blue/Gray, and an interior color. When I opened the box, it had been mispacked with the late war colors. So the box says early war, but it had late war colors. I can use these colors for other models, but that left me without the colors I planned to use on the Texan. I think I have all the Tamiya colors I need to mix my own colors, but that can wait till tomorrow. Cheers.

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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Not to cast any aspersions on the departed, but much of "photo interpretation" in too many airplane books should be labeled "photo guess." Back 40 years ago, the information wasn't there to allow for more than a guess. The unfortunate thing is that if a "guess" is cited often enough, it will graduate with honors as a "fact."

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    You are right, Tom (@tcinla). When I was teaching political science in college I would give the class several examples of oft-repeated false facts that were commonly accepted as true, especially if they were initially said, or supported, by people in authority, like a politician.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    I wanted to get into the painting game today, so I did some quick pre-shading. I wanted to do some quick color cards to see which colors I wanted to use on the plane. I wanted to use the colors in the AK Real Colors set for early US Navy planes, but the boxed set had the late war colors erroneously in the box instead. I did have the AK Real Color for the required blue/gray, but it looked too light in the jar. So, a quick trip to the internet and I got some formulas to mix the color from Tamiya colors. I had all the needed Tamiya colors, as well as the appropriate color in Vallejo ModelAir. Quite a variety of colors. Any thoughts? All of these colors will have white added to them to get the faded colors in the photo.

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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    I'd stick with those Tamiya mixes. I'm guessing all these Navy paint jobs differed visually from plane to plane depending how much outdoor abuse they got. So close is good enough. Blue grey is an easy mix: my basic formula is 3 parts XF-18 (medium blue) and 1 part XF-2 (flat white). Dive in, George @gblair.