Finished! 1/48 Bird Cage F4U-1, Sullivan GB

Started by Eric Berg · 118 · 1 year ago · Aviation, Birdcage Corsair, F4U, F4U-1, Jim Sullivan Group Build, Tamiya
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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Maybe choosing different markings is a good idea, my friend @eb801.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Different markings would be the easiest solution, Eric @eb801
    But I'm pretty sure, with your skills, you can add those flaps nicely as well. A bit of a challenge but doable.

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    gary sausmikat said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Eric, @eb801
    At this point if the cowling is only glued on, can it be removed without too much trouble? Maybe glue debonder or not too much major cutting?
    If not, then a new scheme/markings may be your best option if you don't want the wrong flap configuration with that scheme.
    Good luck! I'm sure what you decide will come out looking good.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Hi Eric (@eb801):

    Interesting problem with the cowl flaps. If I was building the plane for just me, I would for sure ignore the problem and use the decals that I wanted. It is probably a safe bet that someone on iModeler will spot the issue. So, I might still build it as is, with the decals I wanted, and just add a remark that says "yes, the cowl flaps aren't quite right, please just ignore the problem". Or you can switch decals. Or you can do major surgery. It's up to you. Personally, it is going in your collection, build it like you want. I am sure it will look great either way. :o)

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Eric Berg (@eb801)
    Here’s what I did to convert my Tiger Mayberry Corsair. I used the leftover flaps and added them. The pictures will help explain how I did it.


    The Green ones show the replaced flaps. They should be painted in a Blue Gray or Light Gray color inside, as should the interior of the cowling. In most original color photos I have seen, the interior of the cowling is Light Gray. But once they were placed in service, anything goes. I have seen some that were painted Black in the field.

    I had to carefully sand down the outer edge of the part that represents the intake and exhaust pipes. It has to be able to pass through the center of the cowling because this alteration messes up how the cowl mounts against the engine. It can be done though, using the parts supplied in the box with a little bit of work.




    The early Corsairs also lacked a head rest for the pilots. They were added during the production run after a certain bureau number at bureau number 02725. I have also read these head rests were sometimes retro fitted to older airframes in the field.

    I simply cut the head rest off the armor plate and filled it in.

    1st LT Walter "Tiger" Thomas Mayberry, USMC Reserve, VMF-123 F4U-1 "Birdcage" Corsair Bureau Number 02351, March, 4th, 1944 Tunnel Hill Massacre near Rabaul Tamiya 1/48 Corsair
    You have to take a close look at the engine alignment once this is done. It alters how the cowling slips over the engine. The engine is still mounted securely to the front of the fuselage. It only affects how the cowling is secured to the engine. Hopefully this helps.
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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Thanks everybody for the suggestions.

    Louis @lgardner: I knew you would have a solution but I can tell you had a spare open cowl from the looks of that photo. All I have is the spare closed cowl but I think I can make it work based on your technique. My Corsair is now under going surgery and I will post an update when it's moved to the recovery room.

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Eric Berg (@eb801)
    Yes you are correct. The cooling flaps I used on mine are the "open" style, and were leftover from a previous Tamiya Corsair where I had built the model with the cooling flaps closed.

    There's one other slight modification you will have to do to the fuselage when you have the cooling flaps opened...


    On the top front of the fuselage, where the cowling is connected to the fuselage, there is a small flat spot that is used to properly key the cowling and assist with alignment. When the flaps are opened, this notch has to be filled in. If you leave it as is, it is very noticeable.

    I used some plastic sheet cut into shape here with a little bit of the Liquefied Styrene filler. I used a nail file sanding stick to shape / smooth it down. This worked like a charm.

    You should be able to use the parts you have to modify yours. I usually build mine with the flaps open, so I would have to check and see if I have any spares left over like the one I used to convert the Mayberry Corsair.

    If you need me to look, I will. I can send you one if I have one left in the parts stash.

    I can't promise you that I do have one left, because 99% of the time I build mine opened up too. I simply like how the Corsair looks better with them opened up.

    Please let me know, and I'll see what I can dig up for you if you need one.

    Another option would be to try and scratch a replacement set of these upper flaps using sheet plastic.

    Thanks.

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    Brian Mennenoh said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @eb801 - Fantastic work so far Eric! The extra detailing and customization are really progressing well.

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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Thanks for the offer to send me that open cowl piece if you have a spare, Louis @lgardner. I sent you a PM and a phone text.

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Eric Berg (@eb801)
    Hello Eric. Sorry for the late response, it's my first time back on Imodeler in a few days. I never got a text message from you. Did you send it to the right number ? I just responded back to your PM. If I have one I'll definitely ship it out to you. I'll know more later this afternoon if I have an extra or not.

    Thanks.

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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Brake Lines

    Thanks so much Louis @lgardner for hunting through your large stash of Tamiya Corsair cowls and offering me a replacement. However, the good folks at Tamiya USA down in Irvine CA offered to send me a replacement open cowl part A-14 at no charge so I can cut apart the cooling flaps and fabricate the look of the "all around" cowl flaps these early F4U-1s had. Tamiya has always had very good responsive customer service. While I'm waiting, I got rid of the ejector marks on the gear and installed "brake lines" made from stretched sprue. Too much glare on this photo.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Those brake lines do look very good, Eric @eb801
    I do like them more than on my corsair to be honest.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Brake lines look great, my friend @eb801!

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Eric Berg (@eb801)
    I'm very happy to hear that Tamiya customer service is taking care of you. This actually worked out better in the long run, as I had plans to build a British FAA Corsair I like one of these,


    along with two other American early "birdcage" models using some planes from the Corsair "Kindergarten" that still has 6 unfinished F4U's in it.

    This one here "Tojo Eats $hit" is another...but it looks as if it is lacking the wrap around cooling vents on the cowling. The other birdcage needs the modification because it too is an early FAA plane.

    These might end up as future projects for the Jim Sullivan group. Time will tell.

    That's the cool thing about the Kindergarten, is one can build a model up to the point of deciding which paint scheme to use. When the choice is made it goes together very fast since a lot of the basic work is already done. I have a so called "Kindergarten" for my 9 Hobby Boss Wildcats, the Tamiya Corsairs I mentioned above, some Bf-109 Emil's, and Zero's, then a mini one for 3 of the Monogram P-39's.

    Your landing gear looks very good, and I think it was a good idea to add the brake lines. This is an idea I'll have to try out sometime on a future F4U build. It add a lot more realism I think.

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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Cowl Flaps Corrected!

    I was able to score an extra part A-14 open flaps and used that to cut out a section and plug the missing gap as these early F4U had wrap around cooling vents. Because I had already glued the engine and firewall in place, it would have been much easier if I had done this prior. Thanks to Louis @lgardner for showing me his technique for this relatively easy fix. Now I can move on. Additional thanks to TC @tcinla for reminding me that this plane had these wrap around cowl flaps.