1/48 Lockheed F-80 Shooting Star, Monogram, and a pair of them at once

Started by Louis Gardner · 20 · 11 months ago · F-80, Korean War, Lockheed, Monogram, Shooting Star, Skunk Works
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    Louis Gardner said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    This is actually the OLDEST kit I have in my stash. By calling this one the oldest, I'm not referring to the 1983 date. Instead this is the oldest kit in my collection that I actually purchased when it was new. It goes way back to my childhood and is the 1983 boxing.

    I have some other kits dating from the late 1960's and early 70's, but they were purchased years later and were second hand when I got them.




    After finishing up High School, I purchased this kit, then joined the Army and left home before I got it assembled.

    After serving in the Army, my first mistake (I mean my first marriage), having kids at home, and working to earn a living, I gave up building for many years following that.

    Fast forward to 1995, and I got back into the hobby. I was surprised to see that this kit, along with a 1/48 Monogram A-4 Skyhawk were still there waiting for me, covered in years of dust, at my childhood home.




    When was the last time you saw an instruction sheet like this ? Written in English, with paint colors mentioned along with the part descriptions. As a kid, I learned SO much about aircraft by using instructions like this. You could read and understand what the part was called...

    The instruction sheet has yellowed some on my kit's instructions, but no so much on Jeff's kit.

    The original decals however, surprisingly they were not trashed.



    I'll be sure to scan them though. I have some new aftermarket decals waiting for these two.

    Now this Korean War group is drawing to a close, there's no better time than the present, to give the old girl the care and respect she deserves.



    Jeff Bailey was kind enough to send me the other one.

    It too is a fairly early Monogram example, from 1983, which I think was following the initial 1977 release by Monogram. Thanks Jeff, aka BFAM and fellow "Tanker tread head" like me.

    So in my typical "Iron Werke" fashion, I will be building both Shooting Stars at the same time.

    Some of you know that I have not been too active on Imodeler lately. To be honest with you, this work I'm posting here tonight was actually done a month or so.

    My goal is to get these two and the rest of my Korean War stuff finished before the July 27th ending. Life throws us curve balls every once in a while, and it happens when we least expect it to.

    So here is wishing that I will be able to knock these two out.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Amazing double entry, my friend @lgardner! Nothing better than building the oldest kit you got. Jeff Bailey's sent one only makes things better.
    Looking forward to them!

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    Louis Gardner said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Spiros Pendedekas (@fiveten)
    Thank you my friend. I agree it was very kind of Jeff to send me this kit.

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    Louis Gardner said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Here is another Shooting Star update, showing the parts and decals for this project.


    These are the decals for one of the Shooting Stars. As a hint, there are also two F-86's and a pair of Panther jets, just in case I have time to get these two Lockheed's built.

    This is a simplified story behind one of the aircraft and an artists illustration showing how the jet should look once completed. This is "supposed" to be the first "jet vs jet / MiG 15 kill"... but like everything in today's world, there are several versions of what could have actually happened.

    I'll give you my take on this when these reach the headlines section.






    Jeff's kit had the parts still sealed in the original plastic bag. He also sent me a "vintage" tube of Testor's glue, just in case...

    These next photos show you the plastic contained inside the boxes. They are typical Monogram from the era, and since these molds were still fairly new, there is hardly any flash present.

    Stay tuned for another installment coming right up...

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    Louis Gardner said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    This installment covers some work that was previously done.


    The front and rear fuselage sections were glued together. Monogram has engineered the model, so the engine can be displayed. I chose to avoid the troubles that I have read about, I simply eliminated the slip joint between the front and rear sections.

    The cockpit tubs were also assembled, and are ready to paint now.


    The painted cockpits were glued in place, as were the door covering the nose mounted MG's. This door didn't fit too well and will require some filler.

    The completed engines and nose wheel wells were glued in at this point. I didn't paint or detail the engines, since only part of the tail pipe will be visible once everything is done.

    The wings were removed from the trees, and wheel wells painted in Yellow Zinc Chromate.

    In order to keep these from being a "tail sitter", i simply snipped away the nose mounted .050 ammo boxes and feeds. You can see how much room this made.

    I used a .050 caliber black powder musket ball for the nose weight. This should be enough to keep the nose wheel on the ground. I did a quick balance check and it's plenty nose heavy for now.



    After trimming away some more plastic near the joint between the front and rear fuselage sections, and on the exterior of the engine's combustion chambers, I was able to get a nice tight fitting seam along the fuselage spine. The undersides look good too.

    One more update coming right up...

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    Louis Gardner said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Here is what the other F-80 will look like.




    I chose this plane "The Spirit of Hobo", since I have a set of Super Scale decals for this very machine.

    This aircraft is commemorating flying 50,000 missions over Korea.

    It also has a nice shiny metal finish on it, which I hope I can replicate.

    As always, comments are encouraged.

    Good night.

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    George R Blair Jr said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    These two will make a great project, Louis (@lgardner). If I remember correctly, the F-80 was one of Monogram's more detailed kit. Your skill will make them into great replicas. I have a couple of these in the stash somewhere, so I will be taking notes.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    What an amazing entry of this dual build, Louis @lgardner
    A ditto amazing start already made as well per your usual quality.
    The F80 is one of those beautiful early jets to my opinion and I'm sure you will prove that with this build.

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    Tom Cleaver said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    In actual fact. Russell Brown did not shoot down a MiG-15. It would be impossible to do with only one gun working. What he thought were pieces coming off was when the Russian pilot dropped his drop tanks. In fact, as Brown was climbing back to rejoin his flight, the Russian was flying across thje Yalu at low altitude and landed at Antung about the time Brown slipped back into formation.

    Air Force claims for MiGs were mostly specious at best. The six .50 caliber machine gun armament was too light to kill a MiG unless they hit a vital spot. By 1953, the AF was awarding a "kill" to any pilot whose gun camera film showed 100 hits on MiG - which meant a good 80% of those claims were BS.

    Russian claims were frequently BS also, due to the fact their gun camera didn't shoot continuously.

    Rather than a 10:1 "walk over" in MiG Alley, it was 1:1 in 1951 when the US was up against experienced Russians, and overall for the war about 1.2:1 for the US. A more important set of figures are that no Russian airplanes were ever seen over the MLR - the Sabres won the important fight. A close-run victory.

    If you check out my article on doing this kit, @lgardner, you'll see how to do it without turning the model into a putty monster.

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    John Healy said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Great choices, Louis. I love the F-80 but can’t stand that kit. I did a poor job on one 40 years ago mainly due to my low skill level for dealing with that ragged split fuselage. Inspire me to try again!

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    Louis Gardner said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Spiros Pendedekas (@fiveten)
    George R Blair Jr (@gblair)
    John vd Biggelaar (@johnb)
    Tom Cleaver (@tcinla)
    John Healy (@j-healy)

    Thanks gents for the kind and encouraging words on these two. I'm currently pressed for time, so I have to keep tonight's posting short.

    I will try my very best to respond back to you again soon, with a much better reply to each of you.

    Thanks again, and please stay tuned for tonight's update.

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    Louis Gardner said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Here is what I did tonight on the second F-80 kit.

    It was basically a "copy and paste" deal, where I cut away the inner nose mounted MG ammo cans and feed trays, and then added some weight in the empty space this process provided.

    Next I sanded down / trimmed the outer section of the engine's combustion chambers. Finally I glued the fuselage sections together.


    Now I have some strips of clear tape holding the fuselage right and left halves together while the glue dries overnight.

    Meanwhile, I gave the previously assembled fuselage a few swipes with a sanding stick, just to see what I was in store for. There will be some filler needed, but nothing like what I was prepared to do.

    This is definitely the way to go. If you assemble your Monogram F-80 kit in this manner, you should end up with a decent fit where the forward and rear fuselage sections come together. This is the notorious portion of the build. You can also get rid of the clear stand that is supposed to go under the fuselage, to prevent it from being a "tail sitter".

    To this day I can remember building up another Monogram F-80 as a kid... and boy what a hard time I had attempting to glue the front and rear fuselage sections together... as per the instructions would have you do.

    Nothing fit that way.

    So if you are thinking about building one of the kits, and don't mind losing the engine and gun bay details, this is a much easier and better solution to the fit problems.

    This concludes tonight's updates.

    Please feel free to chime in, as always, comments are encouraged.

    Thanks for stopping by.

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    Tom Cleaver said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    You went at it the right way @lgardner. Careful assembly with this kit will go a long way to solving problems.

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    George R Blair Jr said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Fuselage (x2) look great, Louis (@lgardner). It looks like they will be fairly easy to clean up.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 11 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Great progress so far, my friend @lgardner!