1/350 APD (High Speed Transport)

Started by George R Blair Jr · 156 · 1 month ago · 1/350, APD, DE, Destroyer Escort, High Speed Transport, Trumpeter, USS England
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    Alfred van Paaschen said 2 months, 4 weeks ago:

    These printed additions really upgrade the model, George!
    Where do you find the print files and are they free or do they have to be purchased?
    What kind of printer are you using?
    Sorry for all these questions but I’m trying to figure out whether it will be something for me to buy a 3D printer.

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    Carl Smoot said 2 months, 4 weeks ago:

    The new 3D prints look like the ticket George (@gblair).

    I had some trouble with the full hull fitting on my ship as well. Not so much with length, but with width which resulted in some small steps. It took several applications of filler and sanding to get it right. The bottom hull piece is also slide molded and I had to take care of several not immediately obvious mold seams.

    I know you are an experienced modeler, but I can offer a few insights I have figured out so far. Get all the work on the hull done before you even begin attempting anything on top (at least attaching things). I plan on a temporarily attaching my hull to a wooden slab to give me something to hold onto (and to keep the ship upright). I am also considering on painting the hull and weathering it before doing the upper stuff, although I am not sure on this last point yet.

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Thanks for the advice, Carl (@clipper). The full-hull bottom fit perfectly, but the waterline bottom not so much. Good advice on finishing the hull. I want to be through working on the lower hull when I start adding the more easily damaged parts to the upper decks. I would normally try to build the different decks as sub-assemblies and add them after painting, but I don't think that will work due to the conversion. Somehow it will all come out in the end.

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I have been slowly moving forward while I work on a Spitfire at the same time. After the problems with the bottom plate on the hull, I was gratified to find that the deck fit perfectly. There are some additional problems with the hull that I want to fix before I move on with the conversion. The one-piece hull has a strengthening ledge on the inside of the hull near the bottom. There is a continuous sink mark in the same place on the exterior of the hull. At first, I thought I might ignore it, but I think it would be noticeable. I brushed on some surface primer in the hopes that would be sufficient, but it wasn't. I finally bit the bullet and smeared some Tamiya putty all the way around the ship. I plan to let it dry overnight, and then start sanding tomorrow.

    I have been trying to figure out exactly how the Welin davits for the LCVP looked and worked. I also wanted to figure out exactly what sort of deck equipment (winches, etc) would be needed to operate the davits. I was searching online and found a link to a manual that was being sold on Ebay. It was reasonable in price and in condition except for some paint spatter on the cover. So, a few days later I had an official US Navy manual from 1944 for Welin davits on LSTs, which are similar to the ones on the APD. Lots of really cool info. Cheers everyone.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Excellent progress, my friend @gblair! Great reference found!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Great progress, George @gblair
    You found yourself a very interesting manual with some great drawings.
    Good luck on the sanding tomorrow.

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    Alfred van Paaschen said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    That’s quite some detailed info on davits, George!
    Good catch on eBay. 🎣

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Thanks, Spiros (@fiveten), John (@johnb), and Alfred (@alfred). I am an old historian, so I really like stuff like this. I still have my flight manuals from all the planes that I flew and have been dragging them around all of these years. I found the davit manual for just a few bucks, but someone had another one listed for over $40, so I was lucky to find the one that I did.

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    Carl Smoot said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Cool stuff George (@gblair)! Not often you can find detailed information like that at a reasonable cost. Making progress on the hull. I had to do several layers of putty and sanding on my hull as well, but for the gap, not a sink mark.

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Sorry things didn't fit so well on the hull, Carl (@clipper). My waterline is much smaller than yours, so not too much fill and sand. I am in a position to start planning the conversion tomorrow using direct measurement on the model hull.

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Started on the fun stuff today. I enlarged a set of plans for an APD to 1/350 that I found in one of my books and started taking some measurements. I used a notecard to draft and create a template that I can use for the deck on the enlarged area aft of the bridge. It took a couple of tries, but I now have a template that fits well and I can use to cut some plastic for the deck. I have been going back and forth between the model's deck and the instructions to see what needs to be filled or removed. The entire rear end of the APD was used as a tie-down area for cargo and vehicles that would be transported to the landing area, so everything except the depth charge racks was deleted. Next I will need to create a template for the walls of the new area. This looks like a challenge because the entire edge of the hull is curved, so the new walls will need to match the curve. I took drafting in high school in 1967, so creating a template should be a piece of cake, right?

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Excellent job, my friend @gblair! Some serious job ahead of you, should be fun, though.

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Thanks, Spiros (@fiveten). This conversion really is a different type of construction than building a plane. Lot's of fun.

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    Carl Smoot said 2 months, 2 weeks ago:

    This is really cool George (@gblair). I too am finding the change to ship modeling a fun project. Enough so that I may do an aircraft carrier in the future. I'd have to buy one first, but it would be a cool addition to my display cabinet.

    Depending upon the thickness of the plastic you are using when you use that template, you might be able to lay it out in your vinyl cutter software and cut it using the cutter.

    And wow, a 3D printed RC ship. Way cool.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Great progress, George @gblair
    Sounds quite challenging to me but nice to work on at the same time.