Ferrets in the Mediterranean: B-17F Flying Fortress

Started by George R Blair Jr · 157 · 2 years ago · 1/72, Academy, B-17F, ELINT, ferret, Flying Fortress
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    George R Blair Jr said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    I am in the "hurry up and wait" part of the build. I am in my 5th round of putty and sand on the tail of the plane. The rear gunner's section doesn't fit very well, so it has been a struggle trying to get everything smooth. The bomb bay doors have also taken some work. Once I finally get everything smooth, I will still need to restore all of the panel lines I have been busily sanding away.

    I have been preparing the rest of the glass for installation. I usually try to use a black marker on the edges of the glass to stop the errant glare that sometimes is a problem in clear plastic parts. I usually dip my plastic parts in Future to make them nice and shiny, but I wanted to try something new. I have been using the same bottle of Future for about 20 years, but I figure at some point I will need to find something else. I had heard good things about "Looks Like Glass" by Deluxe Materials and gave it a try. Everything is still drying, but it looks pretty good.

    That's it for now. I plan to get the fuselage finished, and add all of the glass and get it smoothed into the plane. Then it will be a matter of getting the wings and tail surfaces attached and it will be on to paint and decals. Cheers.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Yep, the sandind/filling loop can go on and on and csn be irritating, my friend @gblair. The tail looks great noe, though! "Looks like glass" seems to be an ample performer!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Very nice progress, George @gblair
    5 rounds filling/sanding ! Now that is a challenge.
    The transparant parts look great, do you apply this 'looks like glass' with a brush?

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    capt. R said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    This "Look like glass" seems to be nice product! Very nice putty work on tail! Putty are always challenge!

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Thanks, Spiros (@fiveten), John (@johnb), and Bernard (@lis). Hoping to get the fuselage done and the glass glued on today, but expecting a visit from my grand daughter today, so don't know how time will work out. The "Looks Like Glass" could be brushed on, but I pour some into a small container and then I dip the glass into it when it is a big piece. I let the excess run off and then put it on some toothpicks to dry. You can also use this stuff like a canopy glue, so you don't want set the part directly on paper towels to dry. You might have a hard time getting the glass off the towel. You can also brush this stuff directly onto a part. On the B-17, I glued the smaller windows in place, then sanded them flush using sanding sticks. Once I got them shiny again using very fine grit, I polish them with some old t-shirt material, and then brush on the "Looks Like Glass". I think you could also use it after you have painted the plane to attempt a restore on a scratched or damaged window. I use Future exactly the same way. I don't know what this new stuff is, but it works the same as Future. So far, it seems like it dries a little more solid than Future does.

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    capt. R said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    I have to find it in my hobby Store.

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    John (@johnb): I snapped some pictures while I was prepping some of the glass.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    @gblair, thanks for sharing, George.
    Will try to get one of "looks like glass" myself

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Really crystal clear results, my friend @gblair!
    Thanks for posting those in-progress shots!

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Thanks, John (@johnb) and Spiros (@fiveten). So far, I really like the "Looks Like Glass". It dries to a really tough surface.

    Got a little bit done. The fuselage is all closed up, and all of glass has been added except for the nose glass. I am building this in sub-parts: each of the wings, the elevators, and the fuselage were all completed separately. This allows me to putty, sand, smooth, and then restore panel lines without worrying about interference from some other major part.

    I added the wings to the fuselage over the last couple of days. I didn't want to deal with trying to keep two long wings in-place while they dried, so I did one wing first, let it dry, then the second wing. Elevators will come tomorrow. One wing fit perfectly, but the second wing was a problem-child. The trial fitting showed that the wing was thicker at the wing root than the attachment point on the fuselage. I tried several things, but in the end, there was going to be a step where the wing meets the fuselage. It made sense to adjust the fit so that the top of the wing matched the top attachment point on the fuselage and have the step underneath the plane. I took some plastic off the tab that holds the wing to the fuselage, which allowed me to adjust the top of the wing down to meet the attachment point on the fuselage. I can deal with the step on the belly tomorrow.

    Painted the props and the engines today. After I got done, I was examining a photo of the plane that I am replicating, and noticed that the outer 1/3 of each prop had the paint worn off. I figure the Mediterranean operating environment for the plane was similar to Pacific Islands, with lots of sand that scoured the paint off the props during takeoff and landing. It crossed my mind to repaint the props to match, but I didn't think the fragile props would stand up well to the process to remove the paint and then repaint them. In the end I decided to leave them alone and save the paint-damaged props for another build.

    Well, that's it for today. I am letting the glued wings set up completely, and then I can deal with any putty/sanding at the wing roots. Getting close to paint time finally. Thanks for dropping by. Cheers.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Nice work on the propellors and engines, George @gblair
    Practicle, but a bit scary way to let the wings dry.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Looking great, my friend @gblair! I believe you can weather the blades as much as you like: the paint might be worn off in the pic, meaning that you can go for those looks, but you can also go for something "lighter", presumably representing the looks at earlier times.
    Love your jig! Looks scary enough and reminds me of some of my (even scarier) "jigs" 🙂

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    capt. R said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    @gblair great Job! This look like glas gives very good results! I'm curious how about masking and painting in the next step. WIngs ale usually challanging. In modern kits there are wings girders, that stabilase wings (as in my build in Hasegawa kit). Did You use some CA glue for wings?

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    George R Blair Jr said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    Thanks, John (@johnb), Spiros (@fiveten), and Bernard (@lis). Hopefully everything will be solid today and I can take the plane out of its precarious jig. I have found that doing something like this takes the plane off the workbench and reduces that chance of getting bumped while doing something else. I usually only use regular plastic glue, either the thin Tamiya glue in the small bottle, or the thicker stuff like Testors or Revell Contacta. I sometimes use superglue, sometimes with an accelerator, on smaller parts. The Airfix B-17 has some nice girders to hold the wings in place, but not this one. I thought about creating some areas where the paint has worn off, but I worried that the black paint already on the props would make the effect look obvious. I then thought about taking off some of the black paint, but that creates a concern that the props are so fragile that they might be damaged during the process. Still thinking about it. Cheers everyone.

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    capt. R said 2 years, 6 months ago:

    @gblair I have question about B-17. Mabye You can help me? What is under fuselage in place of ball turret (B-17 with C lettering)?

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