WB Gee Bee Z

Started by Jim Harley · 44 · 4 years ago · Gee Bee, gee bee z, Williams Brothers
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    Louis Gardner said 6 years ago:

    Looks good Jim !

    Are you building models of both of Kermit's Gee Bee's ? Not the two seater, but the yellow / black one and the red / white single seat planes ?

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    Jim Harley said 6 years ago:

    Hey Louis, more or less...Kermit's Gee Bees are probably the most accurate replicas ever built of them. Bill Turner built a Z back in the late 70's and he admitted that he lengthened the fuselage and changed the airfoil to make it more stable. Delmar Benjamin's Gee Bee R-2 and Kimbal's Z, now both owned by Kermit, are as true to the originals as you will get. I'm a book hound as well and I have just about every air racing book published. The Robert Hirsch books are what I'm using for the paint scheme, but Kermit's is certainly an inspiration. In fact, on Kermit's you can see the color difference in the yellow on the metal parts around the cockpit cover and the elevator access panels. I don't know if I will go this far but it gives you a perspective the old black and white photos do not. In my stash are 2 of the R-1/2 kits and I'll build one of each. I wish there were more kits of this era, I think air racing did more to advance aviation than any other time. More soon!

    Jim

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    James B Robinson said 6 years ago:

    Jim @jimh, I had the chance to meet Delmar back in the 80's at Oshkosh. He said the the Gee Bee flew better in the knife edge attitude than straight and level. Made sense. In that attitude it has a perfect Tear Drop shape.

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    Louis Gardner said 6 years ago:

    Jim,
    That's a great picture of the yellow one... Much better than the ones I was able to take of it. The rest of the pictures I took that day didn't turn out very well...

    Until you mentioned the color differences in the yellows, I never noticed them.


    The red and white Gee Bee was a little easier to get some photos of that day.



    These are some great planes... and thanks for the updates.

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    Jim Harley said 6 years ago:

    Thank you for posting those Louis, those are great shots. Really shows the size difference between the two! Delmar is an interesting guy, he test flew the Z out of Leesburg, I'm not sure if anyone else has flown it. I talked to him at the Cleveland Airshow many years ago. He said the Gee Bee was unique but not difficult...he said his Pitts time was key in being ready for the quirks. I wish I would have recorded the conversation, it was a once in a lifetime deal. Delmar is consulting on a friends Gee Bee R-2 build. Delmar gave Mac his concrete wheel pant molds and many of the drawings. Mac lives in Arizona so I have to live vicariously through his facebook posts.

    I spent today at an IPMS show in Cleveland, I'll post the photos in blog article. Thanks again for following along! I got some real inspiration today!

    Jim
    Macs R-2, It's farther along that this, I'll post some more soon. He sent me all the materials and plans to build a full scale rudder for my man cave...one of the many projects in the pipe line 🙂

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    Louis Gardner said 6 years ago:

    This is an amazing set of photos...the details are incredible. Building a full sized aircraft has always been a dream of mine.

    I'll bet that Gee Bee rudder will look good on the wall of your man cave, and this is a very cool idea.

    I have often thought about building a replica Fokker rudder for the same purposes. Dr-1, D-7 or even one from an Eindecker... 🙂

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    Jim Harley said 6 years ago:

    Not much to update on but I did get the darker yellow sprayed on, hopefully the contrast will be worth it. I taped up the wheel pants and primed the elevators. If all goes well I'll shoot the black tomorrow. I assembled the cowling and filled it with Tamiya putty. I wet sanded it all the way around and shot it with black. Under a bright light the flaws really stand out. It looks like it was turned on a lathe. I re-sanded it and the first coat of black is acting as a good filler. I'll re-shoot it tomorrow. The only big job left is the engine. I cut off all the pushrod tubes from the WB casting and will replace them with metal rod. The ignition harness will be made from wire and stretched sprue.

    Interesting fact which I really never paid attention to before this build...The Z model was only in existence for 75 days. It won the Thompson and was made ready for a run on the absolute speed record. It was flown to Detroit and Lowell Bayles would parish in the crash during the attempt.

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    Jim Harley said 6 years ago:

    The black is on...I'll peel the tape off tomorrow and see if this worked. I bought some clear Vallejo varnish today and I'll shoot that on...if the stripes worked. In hindsight I should have shot this with acrylic since it would be easier to strip 🙂 More tomorrow.

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    Jim Harley said 6 years ago:

    So far so good! I am happy to say the thin tape worked. There is some minor touch up to do for some things I overlooked when I taped the yellow. It won't win any shows but it certainly opens up the door to the other 2 Gee Bees in the stash. Tonight I cleaned up the wheel pants and shot them with Vallejo gloss varnish. I bought some 3000-12,500 grit pads to really fine tune the finish...I figure if I screw up the wheel pants it is easier to fix than the airframe. more soon!

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    Josh Patterson said 6 years ago:

    Wow Jim, that turned out great! I have ordered some 1/64 tape from Chartpak for my Kenworth Aerodyne, but will also try this on my R2. It is so much crisper than my hand painted trim!

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    Jeff Bailey said 6 years ago:

    Fantastic job on those scallops, Jim!

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    Jim Harley said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Picked away at the Z while the Mustang drys. These decals are really fragile. They will need touched up in couple spots but they really lay down nice and are super thin. more soon, I'll do the wings tonight.
    Jim

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    Gary Wiley said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Very nice Jim. Wow that looks nice and crisp!

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    Tom Bebout said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Gosh Jim, if that was any smaller you couldn't see it. Nice work.

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    Josh Patterson said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    I would recommend cutting the N number into individual digits on the wing. I got mine on in one piece but it was a bear of a job! Like you said, they are super thin!