Well you also have to realize the ramifications of all the men and women that were killed in the attack now still alive. And of course their future relatives that have not been conceived now being able to live as well. Imagine this one of the survivors in the 50's or 60's going to the same school at the same time let say with George Bush. And somehow that kid becomes a prominent politician and instead of George W becoming president this guy that wasn't supposed to be there wins the nomination, and maybe he is not as well liked and so instead Gore becomes president and that of course changes what we know now. That is just one instance, it would affect all aspects of life in America, Who knows that JFK's Pt 109 isn't sunk. George HW Bush serves in Europe instead of in the Pacific and gets killed in action. So many scenarios if history is somehow changed. And everything as we know it is not how it is today. From Biplanes in the 30's to flying jets in the 1940's. . Shows how technology accelerated and advanced in less than 15 years. And this is before computers and micro technology that we have today. And yet the F-35 is now finally flying and it was on the drawing board in 1997. Though remember this movie is a bit different where as no time machine or device was involved to travel back in time. The Final Countdown scenario involved a type of wormhole or a gate that allowed a ship to go back in time in an unexpected unplanned event. Rather a unique approach in time travel.

Chuck (@uscusn)

"The Final Countdown scenario involved a type of wormhole or a gate that allowed a ship to go back in time in an unexpected unplanned event. Rather a unique approach in time travel."

Yes, I know that in The Final Countdown scenario it didn't involve a man-made/created portal, as on the Philadelphia Experiment.

The theories out there is that both, man-made/created, or natural portals (or wormwholes) do exist.

A lot of evidence seems to corroborate both actually do exist.

As for the possibilities of changing the past in order to change the future, I'm convinced there is some universal law that forbids that to happen.
Or if possible, then different timelines for the future will be created and both co-exist in the future. Meaning that those in a timeline will never know about those potential changes in the past, as both will follow different paths...

David (@dirtylittlefokker)

I like some of Stephen King's books (in films, as I've never read one of his books), but IMHO that theory is wrong. As I say above, by changing the past, nothing would change in that particular timeline, a new one would be created instead.

Cheers!

Dolf

Not sure why, but have been trying to reply to Louis post, tried a few times, with two different browsers, but for some reason my post won't show up!...

After I hit the Post Reply button, a message shows up at the top of the page saying: "There was an error when replying to that topic" (or similar words) ...

Dolf

‘Chrono-dimensional faceting’- now THERE’S a phrase you didn’t think you’d read on a modeling forum. Fascinating post, Chaz. I follow most (well, some...) of your points, and my pet ‘like’ is the ‘relative state formulation’ - falling back to quantum theory and good old Shrodinger’s Cat. Every state, past and future, may be possible. All of which is to say that somewhere, the Nimitz appeared in the Pacific on December 1941 and whooped the Japanese, and didn’t, and did...oh, boy.

If you fancy a fanciful read regarding this, you could do worse than this...

A good read for someone with an interest in WW2 and modern military, oh, and time travel.

Chaz (@cybergolem)

"The original analogy of a multiverse is more akin to soap bubbles floating through the air than an onion and its overlapping layers."

Believe you're right, that matches what I've been researching on this subject.

Notice that there is another thing called Dimensions, and those will most probably exist in our own Universe (no idea about others, but then no one would know) .
These Dimensions are the ones that would exist all around our own 3D, just like the layers of an onion, remaining invisible to our eyes, or even our current technology (but then again, the current Human technology cannot directly see Dark Matter, nor Dark Energy, even though they know both exist; with around 68% of this Universe being made of Dark Energy, and around 27% being made of Dark Matter, the reality is that the entire Cosmos that we can actually see is only around 5% of the real thing!... All the rest is unknown and unseen to us!...) .

Cheers!

Dolf

David (@dirtylittlefokker)

I honestly don't think a beer (or two, or more) would help... lol...

For these mysteries I'd suggest Ayahuasca instead 🙂

Cheers!

Dolf

Ah, this is a spoiler for one of my builds for this group;

https://youtu.be/xtsf0vtOAWY