“Here’s to Swimmin’ with Bow-Legged Women”

Started by david leigh-smith · 550 · 5 years ago
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    said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Looking really good David.

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    david leigh-smith said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Thanks, Anthony. Appreciated.

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    david leigh-smith said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Louis, really, don’t tempt me with ideas like this. I’m now just two minutes away from looking up old aquariums on eBay...

    And the Pegasus model comes with a cage! And a diver! Ditch the camera, make a harpoon and we have Hooper! Add a couple of yellow barrels...

    Right...1/18 scale shark, approximately 1/20 scale Orca...but the shark is a ‘regular’ shark (12.1inches long x 18) = 18 feet long, Jaws movie shark is 25 feet long. Mmmm. forced perspective? Could work...you see what you’ve done to me Louis?

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    Maarten said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Really cool subject,
    i will be following your progress.

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    Gary Wiley said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    David, 2 words... Do it!
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    @dirtylittlefokker

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    Louis Gardner said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    I'm sayin'...

    Do It David !

    May the force be with you... I have even devised a method that would allow you to fill the aquarium with resin and not have it weight several metric tons... 🙂 or cost you a small fortune in resin materials.

    Plus you wouldn't have to worry about getting air bubbles trapped in any of the "submersibles"...

    You would basically be building a box inside a box. The smaller box would be anchored at the bottom of the aquarium. Simply place several thin sheets of plexi-glass (or other suitable clear material) inside the aquarium to form this smaller box.

    Place Hooper, the cage and the shark inside the smaller box. Once it is secured and sealed, you can start pouring the resin (or what ever material you would be using to recreate the ocean water) in between the actual aquarium walls and the inner box...

    If you really wanted to make the shark look bigger... use a smaller diver inside the cage, and have it farther away from the boat. Forced perspective at it's best. Give the illusion of making the shark look bigger.

    Place the "Orca" as it would be floating in the resin mix... presto !

    Shark in a box !


    Don't forget the yellow barrels.

    How cool would this look ?

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    david leigh-smith said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Interestingly Louis, that’s EXACTLY what they did in the movie, training a “small person” to dive in a little cage so a 16ft great white looked like a 20+ footer in the cage scenes. The shark that destroyed the cage in the movie scared the dwarf they used so much he refused to go back in the water, forcing a rescript.

    You are right, in terms of ‘cool appeal’ it’s off the charts. I’m going to let these ideas of yours percolate. Lot to think about, maybe experiment small scale.

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    James B Robinson said 5 years, 10 months ago:
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    James B Robinson said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    So David...when the time comes...you KNOW you will have to build this...
    https://www.facebook.com/joseph.reginella/media_set?set=a.10205379338461109.733566568&type=3

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    david leigh-smith said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    What a shot, James. I had a look at the video of this and it’s at once terrifying and beautiful.

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    Stephen W Towle said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Whats the big deal? So we have a diver at a petting zoo.
    With a pregnant shark...it kind of takes away the premise of Great Whites being mindless killing machines. What made Jaws so great was not seeing the Monster ...not knowing what lurks beneath the waves and letting the mind conjure up and fill in the blanks. Spielberg is big fan of Hitchcock and used some of his adept use of just showing enough clues of the horror until it was time for the horror.

    So how does one model horror?

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    david leigh-smith said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Stephen, THAT is an interesting question. How does one model horror. There’s loads of ‘horrifying’ kits out there with gore, monsters, and the like but I’ve yet to see one that is genuinely scary.

    For me, the whole ‘Ocean Ramsey’ thing is interesting. She’s there swimmining with this primal creature that could tear her to pieces with no shred of care for her ecological intentions. She has not tamed that shark, she doesn’t ‘understand’ it, and certainly can’t claim that because she is able to do this that great white sharks don’t deserve their reputation as ‘man eaters’. They do eat men. And women.

    The photo reminds me of Damien Hurst’s installation ‘The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living’ where a tiger shark is supposed to stimulate the thoughts of death, but the shark itself is robbed of any real terror, therefor not stimulating the required thoughts of death.

    I do a similar thing on presentations on anxiety. Edmund Burke, a philosopher and writer postulated that when we look at a tiger in a cage we can see beauty, power and an intellectualised sense of fear (because the cage is there). Take away the cage, and out relationship with that tiger changes instantly. Each of us has a varying and changeable relationship with our own tigers, depending how strong our own cage feels at any given time.

    So, back to models and horror. Jaws would not have been half the movie it is if we’d seen the shark from the beginning. I remember swimming after midnight in the Indian Ocean with a friend some time ago. The moon was full, we were young, it was warm, and there was wine back at the beach. Me being me, I made a remark about prime tiger shark hunting times; cut the swim short and killed the atmosphere.

    What lies beneath. Yes, Ocean is petting the great white, but with one quick movement it could reduce her (with her youth, and beauty, and ecological credentials) to pieces of butcher meat. Which is what we all become. And we all fear. How to model this? There is a great question, Stephen.

    @stephen-w-towle

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    Tom Cleaver said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    I well remember seeing "Jaws" the first time: me, my then-wife and her little brother. At the end of the movie, she complained she couldn't get up out of her seat because her arms didn't work - brother on his side and me on mine, we had squeezed her arms so tight we had cut off her circulation! 🙂

    I suggest to any of you that you watch "Duel," a TV movie that was Spielberg's first movie: Dennis Weaver versus an 18-wheeler truck that decides to kill him after he honks at it. Every single one of Mr. Spielberg's patented ways to scare the bejusus out of you are on display his first time out. The scene in the restaurant where Weaver thinks he has finally spotted the driver of the truck, only to be dismayed that he hasn't, is right up there with the first time the shark starts pulling the floaters under in "Jaws," and the ending is right up there with "Jaws." It was a TV movie, and the first time I saw it (pre VCRs) I didn't know he had directed all the episodes of "The Night Stalker" I liked; we were jumping up and down during the commercials, "get over! get over!" NBC, the network that made it, wanted him to blow up the truck, but he stuck to his guns and said "It has to die." You can see it nowadays on Netflix without commercials. If you haven't seen it, you should. He got hired to do "Jaws" because the producers looked at "Duel."

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    david leigh-smith said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    Spoiler alerts

    As an interesting addendum, Tom, Spielberg used a slowed down dinosaur roar sound effect for the Truck ‘dying’ at the end of ‘Duel’. He used exactly the same effect when the shark dies in ‘Jaws’ as the corpse sinks to the bottom. Spielberg actually said, “I wanted to say thanks to a movie (Duel) that gave me a career”

    https://youtu.be/meSa7PPInwU

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    Stephen W Towle said 5 years, 10 months ago:

    They must of used more than one truck for that project. Youtube has a program with one of the original trucks used in the filming. Another modeling project...