SNJ-3 Texan: 1/48 Modelcraft or Revell (Game time decision)

Started by George R Blair Jr · 232 · 1 year ago
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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Excellent progress and ditto 3D printings, my friend @gblair!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Great work on the printed seats, George @gblair
    All your printed work looks great by the way, seems like you are getting more comfortable with this technique.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Thanks, Spiros (@fiveten) and John (@johnb). I still get unexpected results and failures sometimes when I am printing, but not as often as before.

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    George R Blair Jr (@gblair)
    I agree with our friends... the 3D seats are excellent, and should look great in your SNJ.

    Thank you for asking about us and the hurricane. It made landfall early this morning on the other side of the State. We have fared very well. Our electricity was off for a few seconds, and it came right back on. We were very fortunate and others are not so lucky, especially on the West Coast of Florida near the "Big Bend" area where the storm made landfall as a Category 4 hurricane. We only had a few small tree branches drop from one of our trees, and some Spanish Moss dropped out of some of the neighbors Oak trees, blowing into our yard. It might take us 15 minutes of cleanup and we will be good to go.

    The main thing is we are safe and sound. Hopefully you guys will get some rain soon, but hurricanes tend to draw up all of the moisture in the surrounding areas. Take care and good luck with your SNJ.

    I'll be posting the Eduard FM-2 now. Please look for it in the headlines section.

    Thank you for asking.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Thanks, Louis (@lgardner). I am side-tracking for a few days working on some 3D stuff that might work on the SNJ. Hopefully more on that soon.

    Glad to hear you fared well in the hurricane. I was deployed for a couple of months to Miami/Homestead after Hurricane Andrew, so I have seen what hurricanes can do in Florida.

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    George R Blair Jr (@gblair)
    I remember Hurricane Andrew well. It was the worst hurricane that I can remember hitting Florida. I have seen the results of many of them, (and some tornados too), when I worked in law enforcement and many years in the fire service. We deployed some people to go help out during Katrina, but I didn't go there. We were indeed very fortunate.

    I'm excited to see what you might be doing for the SNJ. I have been scouring the Internet to find some good pictures of local training planes that were used here in Florida during the War. The training planes didn't seem to get the attention the others did that were deployed overseas. I hope to pay respects to those who served in this aspect with some of my upcoming builds. I have a set of decals for a beautiful SNJ from Pensacola. Two of my kits have both styles of canopy, the late and early. I just checked after you mentioned something about this. I would like to do the NAS Deland SNJ in overall aluminum, then the Pensacola plane with the polished aluminum and yellow wings with red markings too... but I would like to find an Army plane that was used as a trainer here in Florida during the War as well. So the hunt continues...

    Thanks again.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Today was filled with academic endeavors in pursuit of this build. My two new references arrived today and helped clear up my seat mystery. One of my references was a reprint of what pilots call the Dash-1, or the pilot's manual. It is the manual for an T-6C/SNJ-4, which should be very close to my plane. There was a very good diagram of the seat which perfectly matched what I thought was the rear seat. According to the Dash-1, it appears this was the seat in both cockpits. I have another reference which showed the seat in a T-6G which matched the P-51 seat almost perfectly. Here is what I think is going on. The early models of the T-6 had the simpler seat illustrated in the Dash-1. The later T-6G, which was designed to fulfill a combat role, had the sturdier seat similar to the P-51. I suspect at some point, the earlier T-6s might get replacement seats that would create a plane with one of the simpler seats and one of the sturdier seats. A few nights ago I found a file for a 3D printer that was designed by a guy who created a digital cockpit for his quarter-scale (really large) T-6 radio control plane. His design creates a really accurate cockpit, so I spent the last couple of days printing seats. I am sure there is an easy way to mathematically figure out how much I need to reduce the size of the design, but I just estimated that I would need to reduce the size of the seat by 90%. My printed seat came out really nicely, but was still too large. I then printed another seat reduce 94% and found it was too small. Tomorrow I plan to find the "Goldilocks" seat size, starting with a 93% reduction. The seat in both cockpits is an early seat. I would still like to put the later seat in the front cockpit, because I think a station plane might have had the opportunity to get another seat. While I was at it, I printed some throttle quadrants, and fire extinguishers.

    My next problem is the instrument panels. I have a Quinta set for a T-6G, which I figured was close enough for this build. As it turns out, the rear instrument panel in a T-6G is very different than the earlier models. In the early models, the rear panel was very abbreviated with limited instruments, while the front panel was fully equipped. The rear panel in the early models was much smaller than the front panel. The rear panel in the T-6G was nearly the same as the front panel, which means it was much considerably larger than the earlier rear panels. The Quinta set has this larger panel. I want to display the smaller rear panel, so I will need to figure out how I want to create a rear panel that will match the very nice Quinta panel in front.

    The last thing I dealt with was the floor of the cockpit, which is an open framework. I am not sure how much you will be able to see of the area below the floor framework, but I want to add some of the structure that I think would be there, such as wiring, fuel lines, wing spar, etc. While I am on the topic of wiring, the back of the rear instrument panel will be visible, so I need to plan to add some wiring there. Have I mentioned how easy it is to jump down the rabbit hole on a build like this?

    After I get the seats figured out, the rest will hopefully go a little faster. The main reason I wanted to build this plane was to play around with its really cool paint scheme, so I am trying not to get too sidetracked. Cheers everyone.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Thanks, Louis (@lgardner). As usual, I am learning a lot about the plane I am building. I think there is a lot of room for personal choice as far as the seats go, but I still have a lot of experimenting to do with my 3D printer.

    Our deployment during Andrew was interesting. We deployed from New Jersey with only 12 hours notice. At the time, I was a planning officer at a mobile headquarters. We set up at Miami International, and we managed the Air Force airlift bringing relief supplies and equipment into the area. We started with about 10 people in our detachment, but by the 2nd month we were down to 4 people. I got several rides on our helicopters that were surveying damage, especially at Homestead AF Base. The damage was unbelievable.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Excellent reference, my friend @gblair! Surely the Dash-1 clarified many things. I am amazed by your 3D printing results, surely you will get the scaling correct today. This will be an amazing interior once finished!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    This is very nice reference material, George @gblair
    Looking forward to the dressed up interior.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Thanks, Spiros (@fiveten) and John (@johnb). The Dash-1 was fun to examine. The Dash-1 in C-141s was huge and had several hundred pages. The Dash-1 for the T-6 was only 30 pages or so. Much simpler times. I hope to get the scaling on the printed parts dialed in today and then get the parts actually printed so I can get the cockpit moving along. Thanks for stopping by.

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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Your 3D seat looks terrific. It seems to me you are really getting the hang of dialing in printed parts already, George@gblair. That Harvard manual looks like the perfect reference for your build.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Thanks, Eric (@eb801). The hard part about 3D printing is finding the files you need. I got lucky on this build.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    I spent my modeling time today fooling around with refining the 3D prints for the seats. I think I have zeroed in on the correct reduction (93%) to get 1/48 seats. I plan to print several of each type of seat and then see how I want to configure them in the model. I am also printing the radios, the fire extinguishers, and the rudder pedal assembly. The biggest problem with reducing the original file by 93% is that the parts get extremely thin. The flat areas on the seats are only about 0.1mm thick, which makes them almost too fragile to use. I am worried about the rudder pedal assembly, but we will see how it goes.

    I also did a little work on the floor framework, as well as adding the back of the gauges to the rear instrument panel and drilling them to accept their simulated wiring. Should be fun. I also prepped the fuselage floor to install some fuel lines from the wings to the engine, along with a valve and pump I created purely from my imagination. Hopefully this will help fill in the the big, blank area beneath the floor framework. I hope to get everything printed tomorrow so that I can get the interior moving forward. Cheers everyone.

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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Hey @gblair - how much are you gonna sell that T-6 correction set for to the rest of us?