Douglas C-47 Dakota, Royal Hellenic Air Force Korean Detachment (ΕΚ.Σ.Ε.), Airfix, 1/72

Started by Spiros Pendedekas · 161 · 4 years ago · 1/72, Airfix, C-47, Hellenic Air Force, Korea The Forgotten War
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    Louis Gardner said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Spiros, @fiveten
    The little mesh addition was a nice improvement. It looks very good and closely resembles the honeycomb look of the real oil coolers. This is very cool !

    It looks like you might be getting close to spraying some color on it.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Thanks Louis @lgardner!
    Progress dependsupon aircraft release from QC/2.
    It is also under preliminary (and neverending...) flight testing...

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    Colin Gomez said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    The C-47 is coming together very nicely. I like the scheme with natural metal and black under surfaces. This build is a real; history lesson for me. I didn't know the specifics of the Greek contribution to the Korean War before your write up here. Obviously the Greek pilots were in the thick of the action. In general, transport is a huge mostly unsung element of any war effort and ought to be memorialized more. Watching this build with interest (also for the incidental chat about motorcycles!).

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Thanks Coiln @coling.

    Looks like the Hellenic C-47s arrived all in NMF look in Korea, without any special marks. Afterwards, some had the undertail surfaces painted black, some had all underwing surfaces black. I blieve it had to do with identification purposes and mission profiles. Along came the special markings, as the crews were "allowed" to decorate the planes at a less struict way than back at home. So the best approach for camo justification is photo reference, as there was little standardization, and the same plane could sport different (ie more decorated, total black undersurfaces etc) with time passing.

    I have a couple of pics for "my" C-47 (ΑΡΗΣ-MARS), showing black undersurface for the tailplane only, so this is what I will try to replicate.

    The Hellenic C-47 Korean Expedition was indeed an unsung element: of the 7 planes sent, 4 were lost and 12 aircrew were killed. The planes flew many unorthodox missions.

    Thanks for watching, motorcycle chat is obligatorily (!) welcome!

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    Robert Paschall said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    @fiveten. Looking good Spiros, I like the little things like adding mesh. It steps the kit up, and isn't difficult to add. Looking forward to paint work.

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    George R Blair Jr said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Spiros (@fiveten), what do you plan to use for the natural metal?

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    Robert Royes said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Nice progress, Spiros. It's been awhile since I've checked in, if I blink my eyes you'll be finished with the build. I never flew in a C-47, but they still were flying C-117's when I was in the Navy. I did take two flights in C-141's. @gblair.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Thanks Robert @beauslx! We so agree! Adding some little easy details indeed steps the kit up! It is also a motivation booster: kind of exquisitely personalizing your build (which is "personal" anyway...)

    Hi George @gblair! I will use, as always, my old trusty friend, Hu11 enamel. It is a 45 years unbreakable (?) relationship and we kind of have an excellent coexistence. I might say that Hu11 it has improved lately, it having become even more "metallic".

    Thanks Robert @roofrat! Those flights in big military transport planes are such great events to remember!

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    Michel Verschuere said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Great build Spiros, thanks for sharing!

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    Erik Gjørup said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Spiros (@fiveten) my friend, very nice progress, looking forward to the colors!

    Now, with motorcycle chat obligatory, I have a small one; When I got my license for two wheels, I borrowed a bike for a short spin. Now, not wanting to do anything stupid, I drove at the speedlimit. That seemed fast to me - I told the owner that, and he said; "it is in miles" (we use KM in Denmark).

    As for Korea; I just got a booklet with lots of info on the war. Greece is mentioned once. No details on the planes used whatsoever. (the same with lots of other countries that took part in the conflict). The Danish contribution is not even mentioned. Not once. OK - it was just a hospital ship with doctors and nurses, but nonetheless they were there, saving thousands of soldiers and civilians - they even treated the Korean President!. Enough said about that.

    Regarding the Humbrol, I just heard the other day that the importer in Denmark will stop marketing the paint - indeed he has not re-supplied even the most basic colors the last few months! I for one will have to search elsewhere for it, Brexit looming and all may make it a bit more difficult.

    Now, That was a lot off my chest in one post - sorry for that! I shall go sip a cup of coffee, and all will be well 🙂

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Thanks Michael @michel-verschuere! Glad you follow my build!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Hi my friend @airbum!

    Thanks for liking my progress! A small mishap took place, as QC/2 exceeded the Never Exceed speed of the C-47 (190 KIAS), compromising the tailplane's structural integrity..oh well, nothing that another pass of of liquid styrene cannot take care of!

    It's great you have a bike, big or small (or no bike sometimes) makes no difference, you are a biker first in the heart, kind of like an aviator...ok I'm carried away now...

    Korean War still is an obscure area, the actions taken there are somehow downgraded.

    I was very happy to yesterday come across a book (in Greek sadly) called Greek Wings at the Korean War, printed in 2005. It is exhaustively detailed, leaving me amazed. Here it is:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20150628120749/http://www.haf.gr/el/history/history/pdf/ELL_FTERA_KOREAS.pdf

    Efforts like this can help placing the Korean War at a less obscure place.

    As for the good old Humbrols, they are still running normally here in Greece. I like them, though they live somehow in the shadow of the "modern" super paints.

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    Erik Gjørup said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Spiros my friend, I would buy the book right away if I came across it - there are some very nice pictures, and even a Danish flag in it - whats not to like 🙂

    Hope the structure overspeed will mend easy - QC can be tough now and then!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 4 months ago:

    Hi my friend @airbum!
    It is a fantastic book, isn't it?


    Dakota is mended, puttied and sanded, almost ready to accept some color!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 4 months ago:


    Silver painting done and drying, with Kafetoula assigned as special guard.

    I think the C-47 can dry in safety, along with the Vautour external tanks that were treated with the leftover silver paint.