Aichi D3A1 "Val" Midway Island, Hasegawa, 1/48

Started by Spiros Pendedekas · 92 · 4 years ago · 1/48, D3A1, Hasegawa, Val
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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Hi everyone!
    Cockpit parts are ready to be drybrushed washed and glued together. I only added seatbelts. I will not use the instrument decals, as the instument (and the rest control) panels have sharply cast detail. Engine is ready.
    Cheers!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Cockpit parts blackwashed and drybrushed. Cockpit assembled and trapped between the fuselage halves. Fit was good. Then the lower part of the wing was attached, followed by the two upper parts. I had some gaps at the fuselage/wing joint; maybe it was my fault, maybe not. Filled the gaps with liquid styrene. The horizontal stabilizers fitted like a dream. She's quite large for a single engine plane.
    Next is sanding/filling/sanding/...stop!-it's a Hasegawa!
    Cheers, magnificent EoJ GB!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Hi all!

    Being in the middle of sanding/filling session.

    Need some advice: I will finish my Val as AI-251, on board Carrier Akagi. According to the instructions, the upper color should be solid green with grey lowers. However, searching the net, I came across a finished Hasegawa AI-251 model that looks overall grey, with hastily applied green on upper surfaces. I also found a side colour profile that shows quite solid green (over grey) sides with almost diminishing green at the fin area. Please check the pics below.

    Could it be that the original painting was grey allover, as it was the case with many Vals, with the green applied on top afterwards?

    Any ideas? Gladly appreciated!

    All the best!

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    John Healy said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Looks good, Spiro. At the time of Pearl Harbor, I do believe Vals were delivered in gray and any topside colors were added at the unit level.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Thanks John @j-healy! Indeed, I do agree with you. That could explain the grey showing under the worn green, which would not also be uniformly applied.

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    Erik Gjørup said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Very interesting pondering - sadly I know next to nothing, but John's comment sounds spot-on.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Thanks, @airbum! Yes, things seem to converge at field applied colours over the original factory IJ very light grey. Now, the fact that there was a base factory paint also makes me supposing that paint chipping will NOT be that much, allowing for some top paint coming off and reavealing the factory paint at places...anyway you have some triggering for your imagination.

    "My" Val AI-251 was leader of the dive bombers that attacked Midway, piloted by Lieutenant Takehiko Chihaya with a group of 35 other 'Val'.

    Yesterday was puttying time. No pics, as I my cellphone died.

    Keep up EoJ GB!

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    Louis Gardner said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    This looks very nice Spiros. I built my Hasegawa "Val" many years ago, and I used a very light gray color on it. Now I know that mine is painted wrong, and someday I might go back and give it a fresh paint job with today's better understanding of the various colors that were used by Japan during WW2. This is still an ever evolving field of study, and new things are being found as more people start researching this fascinating subject.

    From what I have read on the various colors they used on these "Val" dive bombers, they started out with an overall color very similar to that of the early A6M Zero. It was the same color on the top and the bottom sides and was similar in appearance most like a FS-24201 color or a little darker, towards FS-16160. These are some color chips scans I made from my FS color book. It looks darker in the paint chip scan and depending to what your light source is the overall look can be different.



    Then as time went on, in the field they applied various greens over the top of the original color. The green paint would occasionally chip away exposing the original color underneath.
    As the later planes were being built, they were being painted at the factory with the upper surfaces green, and the lower in gray. So it depends on what time frame you are going to chose as to what your plane could have looked like.

    Here's a few links that might shed some light on what I'm trying to describe to you.

    http://www.aviationofjapan.com/2009/04/aichi-d3a-val-interior-in-detail-colour.html

    http://www.aviationofjapan.com/2009/04/aichi-d3a-val-interior-in-detail-colour_10.html

    http://www.j-aircraft.com/faq/D3A.htm

    http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/jimlansdale/pearl/jimlpearl.htm

    This is how my "Koga" or "Akutan" Zero looked after painting it in overall FS 24201 color. I now realize that I will have to go back and add a single yellow stripe on the rear of the fuselage... some day .

    Hope this helps you along the way.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Thank you for the magically helpful info, Louis @lgardner!

    As usual, you provided me with complete and thorough detail regarding my painting questions. I have seenr "trusted" profiles of my AI-251 being overall light grey . So it is highly probable to be recoated at field. I can declare it an obscure possibility for her to be returned at Aichi premises for complete paint stripping and recoating. So off we go!

    Thanks again, my friend!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    By the way, your "Koga" Zero looks magnificent!
    All the best again, @lgardner!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Filling and sanding session finished, cowling painted bluish black. Still no pics, due to my cell's perishing and delivery services big delays, hoping my wife's phone will soon save the day!
    All the best, amazing EoJ GB!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Glued the dive brakes and spats. Some minimal sanding to be done and off to the paint shop!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Here she is, ready for the paint shop!

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Painting in progress...

    The links provided above by Louis @lgardner are most helpful. Thanks agairn, my friend! I would like to comment that both aviationofjapan and j-aircraft are extremely (totally) dedicated sites for the trully obsessed. Their commitment to detailed "excellence" is outstanding. Also, Dave Pluth's editorials -Spraybooth Logic- are an amazing journey by themselves.

    Keep up, EoJ GB!

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    Erik Gjørup said 4 years, 7 months ago:

    Glad that your wife let you borrow her phone 🙂
    I see you ended up with green - very nice!