Foreign Phantoms

Started by Morne Meyer · 26 · 8 years ago
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    Morne Meyer said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    I have come across some nice photos of US Air Force, US Navy, US Marine and foreign Phantoms on the web. Hopefully it would inspire some modellers to join the group and serve as reference photos. I have also included two interesting photos: The first photo depicts a US Navy Phantom receiving red and black invasion stripes in preparation for Operation Eagle Claw to free the US hostages in Teheran, the second photos shows a derelict RAF Phantom.

    28 attached images. Click to enlarge.

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    Greg Kittinger said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    great photos!

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    Robert Royes said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    Nice selection, most I've never seen before. The RAF derelict gives me ideas. As does the bent nose Marine RF-4B.

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    Morne Meyer said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    That derelict would look nice as a model, since it's something different. Not often that one see derelict aircraft modelled.

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    Bernard E. Hackett, Jr. said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    Morne, thanks for the wonderful miscellancy of Phantoms. Image 1 shows painting on temporary markings for the aborted Iran Hostage Rescue attempt, the one where the helis collided on the ground and they had to pull the plug. Agree the "out to pasture" aircraft would be a test of skills, though giving one something to do with a redundant or trashed beyond recovery model. Also, the pranged RF with the bent nose, which I've never seen before, by the way. Great photo! Just all kinda of food for thought, thanks for posting them. Whatta plane! When it first came out, I wasn't so impressed, but she grows on ya!

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    Morne Meyer said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    Thanks Bernard. I have only ever built three 1/72 scale Phantoms before and that was 20 years ago. One was a vintage Airfix kit and the other two were Hasegawa kits. Since then I have collected six 1/48 Phantoms. It's about time I build them. I think the Phantom's rival for foreign operators of a US designed fighter must surely be the F 16. As a young boy I watched a TV series called Reaching for the Skies and an episode featured an F4 nicknamed "Sageburner" that set a record high speed low level flight. That started my love for the Phantom. I think the sad thing about the whole Phantom design was building such a revolutionary aircraft and then leave out a gun. Albeit, corrected in the F 4E. To me the US Navy Vietnam era Phantoms still look the hottest of them all.

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    Bernard E. Hackett, Jr. said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    Absolutely! Gull grey uppers, white unders, and some of the prettiest markings since the 30s Golden Wings era. Particularly the CAG ships. Or special occaisions. I saw "Showtime 100", Randy Cunninghams aircraft, in the collection, from the Shrikes(?).
    I was at Patuxent for their air show in 1967. An F4 did a zoom climb, and I just stood there watching it disappear, dumbfounded. Oh, yeah! Why couldn't I have been born with 20/20 vision and math skills? Rats!
    That's a fighter!

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    Morne Meyer said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    I know that feeling all too well. Missed out on Air Force selection due to Maths and Science scores. In the end I did military service in the Armour Corps. Now I live out the dream building models. Such is life I guess. 😉

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    Robert Royes said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    I did the airfix F-4 back in high school, it had two US Navy squadron choices VF-31 and VF-74 , I ended up in both squadrons while I was in the USN. Talk about coincidence.

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    Morne Meyer said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    I clearly remember building the Airfix "Tomcatter" Phantom. In those days the kit went together in an afternoon and was hanging from the ceiling that evening for me to gaze at it 'in flight' 🙂

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    Morne Meyer said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    I notice in picture 3 that the VF 84 Phantom preparing for catapult launch has no landing gear doors attached to the landing gear ! Very strange.

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    Robert Royes said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    Both sides! It look like a very early photo. Hopefully he's headed for the beach to get some.

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    Bernard E. Hackett, Jr. said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    Has anyone seen the photo, which I only saw once, of the Marine F4N from the Deathrattlers

    that had a mechanical problem, and landed on Arc Royal? She was about to do a port call at Malta, and (I think) USN either couldn't or wouldn't go there. The plane was disguised by the RN folks by putting their F4 "Omega" marking on a white background on the red tail. Looked odd, being overall gull gray, as opposed to RN EDSG over white undersides.

    I don't know if they overpainted the tail, or just put up something that attached to it to complete the illusion.

    Interesting story, though.

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    Bernard E. Hackett, Jr. said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    Morne, missiles were supposed to replace the need for an internal gun. Like the early Sparrows. Uh-huh. Sidewinders, different story. Limitations closein, though. Live and learn. You can't expect the enemy will do what you think they will, on a regular basis. Surprise!
    MIG-17s and 21s coming up underneath and behind, and WHAM!

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    Robert Royes said 8 years, 8 months ago:

    That was VMFA-531 Gray Ghosts side number 207 on a Med. cruise with USS Forrestal I think around 1975,And I believe it was an F-4B. I don't know why it was cross decked to the Ark but I've heard the same story about it being broke. What I read is they did paint the tail in 892 RN squadron markings. You have to dig deep but you can find pretty good photos of it on the net. Hasegawa had a special issue of that bird a couple of years ago. That's after I kit bashed an old revell in the same markings.

    The Navy originally designed the F-4 for fleet defense against Russian Bears and such , They occasionally buzzed carriers anyhow, Basically an interceptor', come Vietnam the mission changed to dogfighter, which it did pretty good after all.