Heinkell He-111 1/48 Revell-Monogram

Started by Colin Gomez · 65 · 3 years ago
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    John vd Biggelaar said 3 years, 6 months ago:

    You have a good methodology to overcome these gaps, Colin.
    This way you can improve the alignment a lot and I am definitely making note of this.
    In the end, dealing with less gaps, makes it so much easier to get a smooth surface.

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    Erik Gjørup said 3 years, 6 months ago:

    Sorry to have been offline for a bit - what a lot of nice work you have done here @coling! Regarding the yellow colors, I highly reccomend my "go-to" source, the book "REAL COLORS OF WWII for AIRCRAFT" by AK-interactive. It is a limited edition book, but still available from AK and at some major LHS'. I do not have mine at hand right now, but reading @holzhamer's reply it makes a lot of sense, and that will keep you "safe" regarding the colors on your plane. By the way - i really liked your work on the radio/wireless.

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    Chuck A. Villanueva said 3 years, 6 months ago:

    Morning Colin, just caught up in reading up on your WIP on the He-111. Like many others also have one in the stash. The unusual design of the fuselage does seem to make this project a bit different from normal. Great to have the well researched information from Pedro and Eric and build experience from Louis come into play. Having them around is a blessing in pointing out what to look for and also any color advise. In regard to the torpedoes, I'm just about finished with my DML Ju-188 in a torpedo bomber configuration. And the torps provided by DML have that nose extension on the warhead.

    Builds to a nice torpedo once assembled and painted. Most likely if you have a DML kit with a torpedo option available you may be able to source them from one of those kits. Or simply add the extension to your existing Monogram torpedoes. I was thinking of building an He-111 as my 2nd build, but really running out of room and the 111 is not a small aircraft in this scale. May opt into a Bf-109F2 next. Looking forward to the next session.

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    George R Blair Jr said 3 years, 6 months ago:

    Nice progress, Colin (@coling). All of the work you do now getting things lined up will pay dividends later. I haven't yet tried the technique for adding the top of the wings first, but it seems to work well.

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    Walt said 3 years, 6 months ago:

    That is really looking good Colin, @coling, and interesting assembly method. Actually a pretty good idea, and something to think about in the future. I know the ICM kit I am building has me attaching the the bottom first then the top. The old Monogram Kit actually builds up pretty nicely and I found the fit to be pretty decent with a little patience. The torpedos are really a nice representation when finished and look good hung from under the plane. Yours He-111 is lookin good and I am looking forward to seeing it in paint!

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    Colin Gomez said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    Thanks, Spiros, John, Erik, Chuck, George and Walt. I really appreciate your feedback. Sorry I have not responded on this thread in so long. I wasn't posting at all for over a month and was finding life stresses getting in the way of the hobby. Thanks especially to Erik on the color info and Chuck on the torpedo details. It was very kind of you, Chuck, to take the time to upload pics for guidance. I have a much clearer idea now about how to do the torpedoes on the He 111.

    So, here is an update on the build. I sanded down all the seams for the wings and fuselage and i am very happy with the results of the build technique I used. Everything looks properly aligned and filling kept to the minimum. I spent quite a bit of time blocking of gaps in the interior of the engine nacelles where daylight could be seen through intakes. I made cylinders of thin sheet plastic for round intakes and flat pieces for rectangular openings.

    All were painted flat black inside. After I was done with these interior fixes, I could put the nacelle facings on. I repainted the wheels wells RLM 02, as I was very kindly reminded that they were the wrong color. Easy to fix.

    I am now at the stage of adding cockpit details, including seats, plus photo etch harnesses, throttle levers. rudder pedals and knobs, etc. I decided to install the cockpit floor first and add the details to this afterwards.

    The instructions would have you attach all the details to the floor first and then install it finished. This was impossible to do when the side console, including a veritable forest of delicate PE control levers, had to be attached first. It took a long time to build this console up, including making control knobs from drops of white glue so I wanted to keep this from getting mangled along the way. Anyway, I was able to do the seats and belts separately and install them completed. I think the drape of the Eduard etch belts looks pretty good. For the pilot's seat, i drilled/cut out the slot for the belts in the seat back. I left the seat RLM 66, without adding a leather cushion, because photo references of museum birds did not show the padding. The nose gunner's seat appeared to me to be a light folding seat of tube and canvas structure. I test fitted the kit seat in its intended place and found that it sat too low on very short legs in an unrealistic way. Period photos of the pit with seated crew appeared to show them sitting at the same level. I therefore added extensions to the legs for the seat. I also sanded down the seat back to make it look more like a thin canvas back brace. It did not make sense to me to have a shoulder harness with such a seat if the back were so flimsy (what would the harness attach to?) so I just did the lap belt. Do you guys know if this is correct? I would prefer to know whether my interpretation is correct before I glue on the canopy permanently. I am also uncertain about adding a cushion for the nose gunner. I don't have clear pics of what this typically looked like or what it was made from (leather? fabric?) but it would add interest/color to the cockpit to create one. I only have this one pic. Does anybody have other reference pics?

    That's it for now. There will be more to do on the pit with some instrument dials, wiring, etc. Hope you guys can help me out with the refs.

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    Pedro L. Rocha said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    Interesting method by leaving the “office” out of the main steps of construction until the final details before painting...I believe never to see ou read anyone building it this way. I guess it’s makes things a lot easier right?
    I’ll dig a few books I have on the 111 and see if I can help with details you ask. Those jump seats are common on most, if not all, Luftwaffe bombers, and I believe those are a basic steel structure with some sort of beige fabric interlaced to serve as cushion

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    George Williams said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    I'm afraid I can't help with any information you're after, @coling, but I can congratulate you on your work, the attention is detail is fantastic.

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    Colin Gomez said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    Thanks, Pedro. I'd be curious if you have ever seen shoulder harnesses draped over the backs of those tube frame seats in any Luftwaffe bomber. They look too flimsy to support the belt structure. On the other hand, I have seen pics of crew sitting in the seat wearing what looks like a harness (but maybe just a parachute harness?). To answer your question about doing the cockpit last, it is really helpful. There is quite a bit of filling and sanding to do overall, so it is best not to get dust into the finished cockpit area in the process. Doing the final cockpit insertion late is more or less the way the instructions call for on the old Monogram kit. The only thing is that they have you pre-assemble all the cockpit details attached to the floor in Step 1and I couldn't do that with the fragile photo-etch additions that could get broken, bent or crushed while connecting it to the fuselage in Step 14. Anyway, it's all good to me. I had more motivation to work on the cockpit after most of the model was done, because I could really see the whole model taking shape.

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    Colin Gomez said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    Thanks, George. The He-111 has such a green house display of the interior that I need to make it look as realistic as possible at this scale. On the other had, the clear parts are very thick, so maybe that will cover any errors I inevitably make.

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    Louis Gardner said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    Colin, @coling
    I am happy to see that you are continuing on with this build. Your work journals are very informative, and I always enjoy reading what you post. Sometimes life doesn't take our hobby into consideration, and it can toss us a curve ball when we least expect it to. Recently my wife and I have had more than our share of knocks too. But we are still here, the Good Lord willing. I too have just started building again. For a while I seemed to have lost my "mojo" and didn't log in here and post things like I once did.

    I will also look into my reference books, and see if I have anything useful to answer your questions about the cockpit.

    Meanwhile, please keep up the great work with your Heinkel.

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    Walt said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    Looking great Colin, @coling, your kit is coming together beautifully. I am just finishing up my cockpit, hoping to get my fuselages glued together this week. https://imodeler.com/groups/imperial-german-air-service-luftwaffe-group-build-may-1st-1910-to-present-day/forum/topic/he-111z-1-zwilling-1-48-icm-kit/?topic_page=3&num=15

    I enjoy seeing how two modelers approach the same subject. Your scratch building in the rear of the fuselage is incredible, and for me was actually captured fairly nicely in the ICM kit. I didn't take a picture this time, but did the fuselage interior in RLM 02 and the cockpit in RLM 66. ICM painting instructions have you painting the entire interior in 02. I think though after a certain point the practice was all cockpits were in 66. It was darker and reduced the glare in the greenhouse nose.

    Nice work, you will most definitely be beating me to paint.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    You are doing a super job, my friend @coling!
    Sorry, I cannot help you with those details you ask...

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    John vd Biggelaar said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    The interior looks very nice detailed, Colin.
    Engineers of Heinkel were really thinking out of the box when developing this cockpit.

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    Dan DeSilva said 3 years, 4 months ago:

    Hey Chuck- I just came across this post this morning- I was wondering if you have ever explored why Monogram wants you to load the torpedoes staggered, as i am not sure if i see that in any photos i have seen of He-111s with torpedoes loaded. The ICM kit has you load them parallel to each other with no front/rear stagger...