SNJ-3 Texan: 1/48 Modelcraft or Revell (Game time decision)

Started by George R Blair Jr · 232 · 1 year ago
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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Use the whole Falcon canopy, George, and open it up. You've got that nice rear cockpit to see, too. Also, it looks like you can cut the side panel masks before you take them off the sheet, just match them to the upper canopy mask.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Was thinking the same as Tom @tcinla, George @gblair
    You might cut the Montex masks to the correct size and still use them.
    It would be nice to have a view on that interior.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Thanks, Tom (@tcinla) and John (@johnb). I hadn't thought about using the top panels on the masks as a guide to cut the lower ones. The missing frame isn't straight, but that might be something to try. Great suggestion. I will have to think about using the whole vac canopy. Every time I have tried them in the past it turns out to be a disaster, including my last model, a Kingfisher. I had planned to match the configuration in the photo, which is having just the forward canopy open. I will need to think about trying the whole canopy. Cheers.

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    John Healy said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Looks good, George. I used the kit windscreen and all of the vac sliding sections and rear piece on mine. I’m pretty sure I used that Montex mask set on at least part of it. Slow cuts with a new blade will get you a decent result.

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    George R Blair Jr (@gblair)

    It's been a few days since I have checked in here. You have made some progress for sure. Hopefully you guys will not contract the virus. I echo what the others have stated above about the masks and the use of the vacuum canopies and masks. If you use the kit supplied windscreen like John mentioned, you should be able to pull it off. I have been having good luck with using the Tamiya PE saw blades for cutting plastic. They will fit right in place of the #11 exacto blade. I have got to where I use them more than a razor blade. I feel as if I have more control with making fine / delicate cuts.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Thanks, John (@j-healy) and Louis (@lgardner). I am surprised that no one makes canopy masks for the older style frames/canopy. When you look at profiles of the T-6, I think everything variant up to the T-6G has the additional framing. In the Squadron T-6 in Action book, only one of the color profiles features a plane with the reduced framing. I have 4 or 5 sets of canopy masks from Montex and Eduard, and none of them have provisions for the extra framing. Oh, well. Vac canopies are a personal nemesis of mine, and trying to use them on my last model was less than successful. I think what I will do on this one is use the kit canopy for the windscreen, the center canopy segment, and the very last curved canopy section. I can then use the vac canopy on the front and rear sliding sections so they will nest like they should. I think this is a good compromise and will yield a good result. We have a relative visiting tomorrow, so I don't think I will have much time to build. I have two planes I want to get working on soon: an F4U-4 for the group and a Hudson.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Good progress, my friend @gblair! I also agree with the above Gents suggestion. Looking forward to your progress!

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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    You cannot mix and match the canopy like that, George. the pilots canopy goes over the center section while the rear canopy slides under, and the kit canopy would be too thick to do that. Seriously, this is not a problem! You position the rear canopy, then put the center section over it, then stack the forward canopy over that. It's easy! Stop telling yourself it's hard and you can't do it, when it's not hard and you can do it.

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    George R Blair Jr (@gblair)
    I think that you are a bit timid with using these vacuum formed canopies because of your recent bad experience with the Kingfisher canopy. Which I think is one of your best builds to date...

    You really should try to give them another chance...like TC said. Tom Cleaver (@tcinla)

    They say that Rome wasn't built in a day, and good things come to those who wait. I can remember my Dad telling me the story of how he learned how to swim. Some of the older kids threw him in the lake ! They told him "Sink or Swim !" and turned around and started walking away... So he had no choice but to swim or else he likely could have drowned. Times were much different back then... True story.

    Because of this, my Dad could swim like a fish, and he actually enjoyed swimming. It came in handy one time, when my little brother was drowning. My Dad saw it happening and immediately jumped in. I saw it too, it's something I'll never forget. Dad was able to rescue my little brother in the nick of time.

    I think you have the capability, you are just a little bit gun shy that's all. You can do it, I have no doubts.

    I hope you enjoy your time with the family.. and the sound of a Corsair and a Hudson sounds great ! I'll definitely be looking forward to seeing that.

    Take care my friend.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Thanks, Louis (@lgardner). I am planning to use 3 of the 5 parts of the vac canopy. I am using the windscreen and the last canopy section from the kit, and the middle 3 sections will be vac. This is all dependent on getting the sections cut out and glued where they need to be. I got the sections cut out today, and I glued the center section in place today. I will find out tomorrow if the section actually stays stuck. I'm a little frustrated with the canopy masks. I have two sets, one from Eduard and one from Montex. Neither set actually fits, especially since the pre-mades are for a late model T-6G, and I am building an earlier model with more canopy frames. Some of the masks are too small, some are too big, and some are the wrong shape. I figure I will get there eventually. I feel like I am on the five yard line but can't punch the ball across the goal line. Hopefully more progress tomorrow. Cheers, buddy.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    So, the plan is to use the kit canopies for the windscreen and the very last canopy section, with the 3 middle canopy sections from a vacuform canopy. I have never had a lot of luck with vacuform canopies, so I usually avoid them like the plague. I managed to get the canopy sections cut out and cleaned up, but things really slowed down when I started masking the vac canopies. I had masking set from both Montex and Eduard, but both are for a later version of the T-6 which had fewer canopy frames. I knew from the start that there would be a certain amount cutting and fitting to allow for the extra canopy frames. What I didn't count on was that neither set really fits either the kit canopy or the vac canopies. After spending a couple of fun-filled hours trying to make the pre-made canopies work on the kit canopies, I decided to hand-jam my own masking for the vac canopies. It took a little over an hour to cut and place the tiny strips of tape used to mask just one section of canopy. After 3 fun-filled hours, the vac canopies are more-or-less masked. I think I am in a position to start painting, so now on to the fun stuff!

    3 attached images. Click to enlarge.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Very nice work on this challenging masking, my friend @gblair!

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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    That looks very good, George, @gblair. Keep it going. You might consider cleaning up some of the rough cut tape edges with some thinned liquid mask applied with a liner brush along the tape edges before you enter paint shop. That’s what I do. You can always go back and clean up any excess paint after de-masking using a toothpick with the tip cut at a chisel angle and lightly scrape the unwanted paint away. Hopefully without leaving scratch marks. What I don’t like about cutting masks for vac canopies is that no.11 blades can do a heck of a lot of noticeable damage in terms of blade scratches and gouge marks but there’s nothing you can do to repair them. Clear styrene is way more forgivable.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Thanks, Spiros (@fiveten). I am getting in a lot of meditation while I am placing the 250 small pieces of tape.

    Thanks, Eric (@eb801), for the suggestion. I have successfully managed to avoid using vac canopies for about 60 years, so I never developed any techniques. I got rid of most of the fuzzies using a fine sanding stick, and I figured I could clean up the rest later. I have been wary of getting a #11 near the vacs, since Murphy's Law says the blade will always bite into the plastic in the worst possible place. The toothpick is a great tool that I have used on regular plastic canopies. It works great until you use lacquer or enamel on your plane, then it gets a little more difficult.

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    Eric Berg said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    That’s why I stick with acrylics although I’ve had no issues scraping away lacquers. Yet.