GWH 1/48 TBD-1 Devastator

Started by David Odenwald · 92 · 12 months ago
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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    @kahu - the TBD interiors were painted Bronze Green starting in 1940.

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    David Odenwald said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Louis @lgardner

    Something went wrong in spots of the Mission Models Blue-Grey on the fuselage, thought that my handling by accident had changed things to a darker shade. Even after two more coats, the dark spots remained. So I stripped off the spots down to bare plastic and shot again. Now have a more uniform color. True on the ailerons as in most photos where it is noticeable the ribs are these darker thin lines but I am going to exercise a bit of artistic license on this.. just like my interior is not quite factory fresh Bronze-Green since that repaint is more than a year in the past at this time for 2-T-4.

    As for the Hobby Boss 1/48 TBD, I do not see how they will bring anything new to the table versus the Great Wall Hobby kits. Unless their molding is of the attrition replacement aircraft to make 8-T-14 and 8-T-16. If Tom @tcinla is right and it is a scaled down 1/32 Trumpeter kit then it will be missing the radios that are in the GWH kit. But I could be wrong. I've still got a couple Monogram TBD kits in stash also so one day maybe.

    I see Brit Modeller has a thread started on Feb 6th of this year on the Hobby Boss TBD-1 with photos. HB seems to be eschewing any signs of PE as the canopy rails for the pilot's canopy are plastic. Also get a clear landing light instead of the GWH molded to wing one in grey plastic. In the photo, the clear plastic for the canopy seems cloudy. Not sure if open doors for the radio-gunner's flexible .30 is a selling point. And still can't build 8-T-14 accurately without modifications.

    https://tinyurl.com/hobbybosstbd1

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    David Odenwald said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Now applying decals and boy is this an adventure. The GWH wing walk decals are the wrong shape for the trailing edge so went looking for my Techmod TBD-1 decal sheet to find it has vanished. I have rummaged around the four Monogram TBD boxes, the GWH box, the HB TBF-1C, and other places to no luck. Luckily I had scanned the decal sheet in and printed off some wing walks to find they printed as a very dark gray and not true black. Grrr.

    Used Yellow Wing stars with red dots. They have mostly settled down over all the wing corrugation though the liberal application of Micro-Sol to make them conform has resulted in some tiny bits of decals coming off. So got to do some touch-up work. But I am pressing ahead.

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    George R Blair Jr said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Things are coming along well, David (@kahu). I have never used Mission Model paints, but I have heard they can be very touchy. Sorry your decals disappeared. I try not to put decals, PE, or masks in a box with a kit unless I am ready to build it. But this has its own problems when I want to build something and can't find the decals, so same problem you have. I don't have a solution. I have worried about the corrugations causing problems with the decals and have considered making masks and painting them, but there may be overspray problems with the masks over corrugations.

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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    Mission Models Paints S U U U C K!

    When you have to have an airbrush dedicated only to MMP paints, that's asking a bit much. Go ask for help at the website and they tell you it's your fault, whatever it is.

    I'm totally uninterested in a paint that claims it's smarter than I am. I bought a whole bunch of this c r a p paint when it showed up at my LHS and reurned all but the one bottle it took to discover how crappy it is. The LHS no longer carries the paint since no one buys it.

    Gunze and Tamiya! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year, 1 month ago:

    David Odenwald (@kahu)
    I can understand your frustration. I am still missing a complete propeller for a 1/48 scale Tamiya F4F... It just completely disappeared, never to be found again. My German Shepherd didn't eat it either.

    I have successfully tried using hot water and a damp paper towel to help make decals conform to corrugations. I would get the paper towel damp with hot water, and press it hard against the model's surface holding it there firmly until it cooled off some. The down side to this, is that you could accidentally pull up the whole decal if it is a small one.

    Hang in there.

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    David Odenwald said 1 year ago:

    This has been an aggravating build that has killed the fun. This is the last time I will use the tempermental Mission Model paints.

    Kit is idiosyncratic. Great details that bring joy only to turn to frustration. Cowling has no firm attachment points to fuselage so used white glue to affix it using the exhausts and antenna mast.

    The aft canopy as Tom Cleaver says will not stack without possibly breaking something. So painted up the aft canopy parts from a Monogram TBD to find another problem when I stacked and stored the last two sections - that nice brass fire extinguisher is oversized.

    Photos are as follows: Monogram kit, original GWH clear parts, and finally the Monogram parts on the GWH kit.

    At this point just want the kit done and move on.

    3 attached images. Click to enlarge.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year ago:

    At least you found a viable solution on this challenging situation, my friend @kahu! Looks great with the Monogram parts. Pity about the paints. The kit looks great and I look forward to see it done!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 1 year ago:

    A pity about all those issues, David @kahu
    Currently it does look great.

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    David Odenwald said 1 year ago:

    Thanks, I am going to keep plugging along on this kit until I drag it over the finish line.

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    Tom Cleaver said 1 year ago:

    It looks like you were smarter than the paint, @kahu. It looks OK, but don't ever use those paints again. They really are as sucky as you discovered.

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    David Odenwald said 1 year ago:

    Tom @tcinla. These paints went from suck to blow. As in they blow chunks.

    Me - "I sealed the paint twice with Mission Model gloss coat. Then added a coat of floor wax. And the paint still runs when I apply a decal with Micro-Sol and Micro-Set?!?!?! Gimme my Model Master paints back!"

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    Louis Gardner said 1 year ago:

    David Odenwald (@kahu)
    Model Master ruled ! I'm still clinging onto what I have left... Now I'm actually starting to use (and I'm beginning to like them a lot) is MR Paint stuff. It's called MRP and it comes in all sorts of colors. It's pre thinned, ready to shoot. Goes on like glass too.

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    David Odenwald said 1 year ago:

    I am still clinging to my remaining stocks of Model Master enamels also. When the local Hobby Lobby had them on clearance I snagged as many as I thought I could use. But learning to like the Vallejo and Ammo stuff, but the Tamiya acrylics are still my favorites.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 1 year ago:

    Joining the above conversation, my friends @kahu, @johnb, @tcinla and @lgardner, being an unremorseful enamel guy (and having stocked as many as I could), I found so far that Tamiya acrylics (and Gunze aka Mr Hobby - they are thicker but same stuff, quality wise) are really nice products, asking no more than some little "learning curve" time from the modeler.