HPH 1/48 B-36 Build/Review

Started by Josh Patterson · 47 · 4 years ago · 1/48, B-36, build, HPH, review, WIP, Work in progress
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    Doug Humphrey said 4 years, 8 months ago:

    That is going to be one huge-arse model. A few years back took a motorcycle trip up to the SAC museum in Ashland, NE, and took some pics of the one they have there.

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    Josh Patterson said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Well, I took another bite out of the elephant today. I grew weary of cutting holes in the wings so I to tackle one of the jobs that had me worried. Working with the clear resin. I cut the lower nose glazing from the pour block

    (one of the few in an HPH kit) and then squared it up on my sanding "block'. I then gave it a trial fit to the rough cut they had in the fuselage. It needed a little help in the fore/aft direction. I held the front of the glass even with the nose then scribed a mark around the vertical cut with a new X-acto blade as a reference. I used my dremel on low speed to take away the bulk then came in with my jewler's file to get to my mark. Once everything was good that direction I held the bottom of the glass flush with the fuselage opening and scribed a mark to adjust the horizontal cut. I used the same technique as before here as well. Then it was just a matter of working with Finesse-a Williams to get the glass just right. The only thing that would help would be a wider file to make sure everything is as straight as my clear part. The file I was using is only a 1/4" wide. If I can find a wider one that isn't too course at the hardware store I'll probably get it and make one final pass to knock down any high spots make sure everything's true. As it is it isn't looking bad at all but there's always room for improvement. I'm looking for some input for attaching the clear resin. CA is out as I don't want to worry about clouding issues. (And no, Future is not an option. Some say it only belongs on the floor, I won't even use it there.) My two thoughts are: White glue, but I worry about longevity as I don't want parts falling off. I've heardCrystal Clear (Krystal Kleer?) works well (I've heard some people even make entire small windows with it) but can't seem to locate it. Perhaps if anyone can tell me the actual trade name. (Also, is the Testors clear parts cement the same stuff, just in different packaging?)

    One of the items holding me back on this build is about to be addressed. Peacemakers could be colorful and exciting, or boring depending on where they were in their service careers. HPH chose the late white belly option. (Boring.) I approached #David Kopielski about scaling up some decals if I found a set that I liked.

    Warbird Decals to the rescue. I bought the set as I'm building a 1/72 version for a friend along side my big one. I've chosen Circle W, a B-36D based at Loring AFB. (A B-36 sporting the Geometric tail codes would've been in service just before the service cycle where the silver lacquer and clear coat started to be applied so the finish is quite stunning. (We'll see how well I can do a NMF on something as big as this.) Here's a shot in the corner of my living room with its little brother, the B-24. Also Monogram's 1/72 B-36 for a size comparison. (Truth be told, the big one is not really that much bigger when you put one on top of the other.)

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    Mark Krumrey said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    A bold move Josh, and it turned out great. I would use Testors Canopy cement with confidence. it is pretty much the same stuff as Krystal Kleer but I think it provides a stronger bond. You are the only one that I know of who is actually building one of these. Keep those cards and letters coming.

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    Josh Patterson said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Thanks for the input on the Testors cement Mark. I've also noticed a complete lack of build threads on the internet. I think most will be bought, sat on and sold at higher prices like the Aeroclub Vulcan. Maybe some are afraid of the finished dimentions. Certainly it's not due to being a difficult kit. (HPH seems to have their act together in the design department.) As it is brand new I've seen resellers go over double the price versus getting one direct from HPH. I'm tempted to get one to sit on as well. (And still another to convert into the C-99, or as a spare in case things go south on this one!) The only big HPH kit I've seen being built on the web is their 1/48 Concorde. Someone over at Britmodeller is doing one and I'm watching to see what to do/not to do on mine. I saw your B-36 build back in April. I highly recommend this kit if you are a fan of the Peacemaker! (If space is an issue, you can leave the wings removable. I'm either building a coffee table to house this and my HPH B-52, double stacked, or hanging them from the wall like HK gave the option for with their 1/32 B-17.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Hey Josh @jpatt1000!

    First, congratulations for your effort so far. This is a fantastic subject! Having built my 1/72 Peacemaker, used to feel proud for my big bird. Not any more!

    Joke aside, I use Humbrol Clearfix, which is a great stuff, dries extremely clear, bonds well, absolutely NO clouding. You can make small windows too. Please see the pics below of an RF-4 I've built: the camera glasses are all made with Clearfix.

    It's easy to find it here in Europe. I believe Krystal Kleer is equivalent.

    All the best - I love your job so far!

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    Josh Patterson said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Hello Spiros! I found some ClearFix on Amazon and watched a video of a guy making windows on YouTube. Can only flat windows be made, or will they follow a slight curve and how big can they be made? (I'm thinking it might be useful on my 1/48 Concorde's passenger windows if it will follow the curve of the fuselage.)

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    Josh Patterson said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    I decided to try for the main greenhouse tonight too. HPH does an excellent job of making a positive demarcation where parts are to be separated. It was a bit difficult seeing it on the other clear piece so I used masking tape to make it a bit more visible.

    It was a bit harder to see as the nice bright sunshine I had coming through my window in the morning was no longer present. (Another item besides moderate modeling skills that is helpful building this is a lot of light.) Once cut out it rides nice enough on top of the fuselage but the builder is supposed to remove the top portion up to the line scribed into the fuselage leaving a hole that the greenhouse is set into. (A note to other possible builders. Do NOT center items using the seam as a centerline. It is offset to the right side of the aircraft. That fact kept messing with my head when I was test fitting and the center frames on the front and back of the greenhouse weren't lining up with the seam.) It fits well enough now but an introduction to Finesse-a Redgrave tomorrow will have it all settled in. Ahhh, glass. NOW it looks like a B-36! (Although not having the bubble on top and just a tubular fuselage reminded me that I do like the look of the XB-36 airliner canopy!)

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Hey Josh @jpatt1000!

    Clearfix tends to stretch between the borders of the hole it is applied. To obtain that curvy look, just put a generous amount at the toothpick and work it around the hole borders. After some trials, you will be able to make fantastically curvy windows. I have the 1/72 concorde in my stash, Heller recommending Clearfix for the passenger windows. 1/48 windows aren't that bigger and I would definitely try my luck with Clearfix, even before starting the project, just to see how it will come.

    Word of caution: sometimes when Clearfix dries, you may observe a couple of air bubbles that ruin the window look. Just remove the dried Clearfix and redo - no worries! It comes off in one piece, no residues left.

    All the best!

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    Josh Patterson said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Thanks Spiros. One more question. Are you able to mask over the ClearFix, or do you make the windows after you've painted?

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    Erik Gjørup said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Josh, enjoying the progress here. (sorry I can't comment on Clearfix, however Kristal Klear is a bit "greasy" and as far as I have tried is not good to mask) Your earlier comparison that a 1/48 is not that big compared to 1/72 - well, that 1/72 looks quite large too. Thanks for sharing this interesting build!

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    Josh Patterson said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Well, I suppose big is a relative term. I've also built RC aircraft and wingspans are between 40" to 50". (My Dad was working on a 1/3 scale Super Cub with a wingspan around 11 feet. The biggest I've been around!)

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    Mark Krumrey said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    It would seem as you have passed a major hurdle, that of cutting out the canopy position on the fuselage and cutting the canopy out of its molding block and...…….it fits! I like how HPH has molded the canopy making blending it into the fuselage a lot easier than the Monogram kit. You can putty and sand without damaging the canopy windows. A nice touch. As to the front greenhouse, it looks like some minor sanding on the fuselage and you have it nailed. You are doing yeomans work here and breaking a lot of ground in modeling as yours is the only build log, that I know of, that is out there.

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    Josh Patterson said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    I did see a guy on Large Scale Planes building one too. His cockpit looks real nice painted up. I may do what he is doing and detail the bottom of the upper flight deck. It will be kinda visible through the nose glazing and having a smooth ceiling wouldn't look right. A little work there might go a long way. With the front glass I think a few swipes with a wide file will straighten everything out and get me where I need to be. I have to add that the material sands very easily.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    Hey Josh @jpatt1000 and EriK @airbum! I wouldn't recommend masking Clearfix, as it does not bond strongly and will be lifted form the model together with the masking tape. But there's no reason to mask it -just do not apply it beforehand, but only after all painting and rest of the work at the model is finished, clearfix being the last thing to do. Just apply to the finished model. Also, cured Clearfix shoud be handled with some care, as it is not as strong as styrene.

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    Walt said 4 years, 6 months ago:

    @eydugstr Doug, when I was a kid in High School the SAC Museum in Ashland was at the end of the runway of Offutt, AFB in Bellevue, Nebraska. I was in the AFJROTC program at the High School and also a member of the local model club that met at the museum monthly. In those days most of the aircraft sat outdoors and were not really "restored" or even given a quick paint job. Many of them just seemed to have been taxied into position and the last guy off the plane locked the door. Still being in the ROTC program and the model club, my friend Ed and I would go there on the weekends and get the keys to the aircraft and go exploring. I took many trips on the sled in the B-36 tunnel through the bomb bay as well as the B-29. I got to explore through the B-17, all the cargo planes including the C-124, C-133, C-119 and many more. It was good times, and we never took anything from any of the aircraft, just enjoyed our time, and high school or not imagined flying all them on some important mission.

    Obviously, this is not something that is done today. I for one, am forever thankful to the curator there for trusting us. He also let me borrow manuals for the B-24 when I was building "Sunshine" the captured B-24. This was before the internet and I many books, since then I have learned I got it pretty damn close with what I had.