Two 1/32 scale Revell of Germany P-51-D5 Mustang builds. One as ”Cripes a Mighty 3rd” and ”LOU IV”

Started by Louis Gardner · 366 · 8 months ago
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    Tom Cleaver said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Those cockpits look really excellent, @lgardner.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Amazing looking interiors, Louis @lgardner
    It is a pitty to get them covered with the fuselage halves.

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    Stephen W Towle said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Louis, your research and photos of Warbirds are paying dividends. The cockpit's look fantastic. I find it interesting that the Eduard Brassin resin is a newer product and technology when it comes to wheels , props and instrument panels. Some of this stuff is designed on a CAD and then printed. The Barracuda decals and wheels are hard to beat too.

    Since you've shown a wear pattern on the plywood floor, I would take a silver colored pencil or a very light gray colored pencil and lightly high light the rudder pedals. Showing the NAA logo and the wear on the pedal were metal tubing runs through the pedal mounted below. About five minutes of your time. The seats could get a little attention too. Giving the cockpit that lived in look and moving away from the "Golden Wrench" award. More blood, sweat, and tears. I know this is picky, picky and very esoteric. I like to think of the veterans first, followed by the machine. The office should be used when the model is telling a story/history of a pilot. Given the amount of research and this is a 1/32nd scale build. That's how I would do it. Free advice gets filed into the round cabinet.

    I got the kit in the stash and will definitely be using this blog of yours as reference. I get a kick out of your selfies too.

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Spiros, @fiveten
    Tom, @tcinla
    John, @johnb

    Thank you gentlemen for the compliments. I am very pleased with how these two are turning out. Today I didn't get a whole lot of bench time in, just enough to finish up one of these cockpits. So please stay tuned as I have another update coming right up. Thanks again.

    Stephen @stephen-w-towle

    Thanks for stopping by ! I had mentioned your name earlier about the information you had told me about the restoration of the Mustang named "Sierra Sue". I spent hours digging around their website, and I picked up numerous tips on how to make these two models look even more realistic. So once again I sincerely thank you for that. Using this information, along with what I have personally gathered from being around the "full scale" 1 to 1 Mustang warbirds, it was like icing on the cake.

    Now as far as detailing the rudder pedals and seat: This is absolutely a necessity I believe. I couldn't agree with you more. So earlier today I did just that. I scratched up the seat and made the rudder pedals look like they had been used too. One more thing I have been thinking about doing, is adding a little bit of dirt and grime on the floor and seat. These pilots entered the cockpit, and while doing so, they almost always stepped on the seat bottom first before crawling the rest of the way in. Sometimes it would rain, leaving the primitive airfields a mess. England is known for it's foggy / damp weather. So I would think that on occasion, the seats and floors would get a little bit grungy too, in addition to the chipping of paint.

    The men who made the history behind what we build are the priority. Getting their story told, in a truthful and realistic manner are of the utmost importance, followed by the machines the flew (and sometimes, more often than not),have died in as a very close second.

    Believe me, all of the information you have sent my way in the past, (like with Sierra Sue, and the info on the various turrets used on WW2 American aircraft), has definitely been put to good use. I wouldn't consider this as materials to be filed in the "round" cabinet. In fact it is just the opposite, as I value what you have to say.

    Sincerely, I thank you.

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    OK, here is what happened today at the "Iron Werke".

    First off, I chipped the paint on the rudder pedals and seats. Here is a close up picture of the rudder pedals. It is hard to see the logo, but it's there.


    I assembled the Eduard seat harness, and glued it in position on the interior that also had the Eduard "LOOK" instrument panel. This is the interior with the seat that was painted using "Interior Green".

    I like the way they drape and I'm very pleased with how this is turning out.

    Here you can see one of the rudder pedals. The one on the left / Port side of the cockpit is barely visible, but it's there.


    The dirt and grime have yet to be added. Hopefully tomorrow this will get done.

    I might even add a little bit of wiring to the boxes behind the seat. Time will tell.


    I still have to build the HGW seat harness. It is very detailed, and has individual parts instead of the single parts like in the Eduard harness set.

    Calling it a day.
    As always, comments are encouraged.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Great progress, my fiend @lgardner! Looks are getting more and more realisic!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Amazing interior, Louis @lgardner.

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    Stephen W Towle said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    "The men who made the history behind what we build are the priority. Getting their story told, in a truthful and realistic manner are of the utmost importance, followed by the machines the flew (and sometimes, more often than not),have died in as a very close second."

    To me this what modeling is all about, half the fun is the adventure of learning history, engineer and something about the pilots and the ground crews. Going to museums and reading up on the subject.

    Louis, the cockpit looks even better. I've seen photos of and have scene Warbirds with the rudder pedals polished bare by pilot's boots kicking and pushing the pedals. One thing about sweating/ doing the details in these build articles/'blogs is that your "Teaching a man how to fish", by photographing and documenting your progress. Nothing is lost in the process and your informing the reader of the environment pilots sat in. The dirt is a good idea, rarely do you see that mention. Pilots sat in a office that sometimes smelled like vomit and if the aircraft was inverted the dirt and grime would drop from the floor and rain down on the head of the pilot. Guy's where pulling G and blacking out too. You can only go so far in your attempts of reality.

    Folks will pooh, pooh the details not scene when finished but, with a blog and photos there are teachable moments.

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Spiros, @fiveten
    John, @johnb
    Thank you gentlemen for the kind words. Tonight I have put the final touches on both of the cockpits, so please stay tuned for another quick update. Thanks !

    Stephen, @stephen-w-towle
    I had a friend who flew P-47's over Europe and he flew 2 missions over Normandy on June 6th, 1944. Later on during the Falaise Gap, he flew up to 4 ground attack missions each day. Sadly he passed away about 10 years ago. How we met, was my wife delivered his mail. She told him how I was fascinated about anything to do with history and aviation. In turn, we met one day and we hit it off right away. His name was Ed Malo. He wrote a small memoir about his wartime experiences, including his flight school.


    He was kind enough to give me a signed copy of this book, along with a small poster of "his" P-47 that he was kind enough to autograph for me. Ed commissioned an artist to make this poster. I'm fairly certain that a copy of this, along with a large drawing of "his" P-47 is supposed to be in the American Airpower museum.

    Here is a picture of Ed sitting in the cockpit of his Thunderbolt.

    He shared the plane with another pilot named Airus E. Bergstrom, who is in this next photo. Carmen was Airus' girlfriend, while Phyllis was Ed's. Later Ed married Phyllis, and I got to meet her. She too was a nice person.

    Besides the things you mentioned about the dirt and smells, he included a few more. Hydraulic oil, gear oil, gasoline and grease fumes. Toss in a little bit of 100 to 140 octane AV gas and you get the drift. Even when these planes were fairly new, they smelled inside.

    Another thing he mentioned was how you could tell who was in the air crews... as they all had marks on their faces from wearing the oxygen masks for up to 10 hours or more at a time in the bomber crews. This would leave frostbite black marks on your face that never seemed to go away because of the numbers of missions they had to fly.

    Someday I want to build a tribute model of this very same P-47, and dedicate it to Ed. He was a good man, and is missed.

    Thanks for commenting. I always look forward to hearing what you have to say. Thanks for the inspiration to add the dirt and a little grime to the "office". It was duly noted and done.

    Please stay tuned as I have another update coming right up !

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    OK here we go !
    First off, I used the HGW seat harness set in the second cockpit.


    This is supposed to have a paper backing that peels off the back of the harness. As luck would have it, I couldn't remove it from my example. Believe me, I tried. For several HOURS I tried, to no avail. I wanted to pose one of these Mustangs with the seat's shoulder harnesses drooped outside the cockpit on one side. So now this is not going to happen.

    But I am very happy with how it turned out.


    This cockpit is using the "Yahu" instrument panel. I wanted to keep all of the Eduard "LOOK" aftermarket cockpit products in one aircraft, while using the Yahu and HGW stuff in the other plane. Here is a close up showing the Yahu panel. I used a kit part for the lower center section of the Yahu panel. It was carefully painted and installed using CA glue.You can also see how the seats were chipped, and foot traffic patterns were "dirtied" up some, using a Tamiya weathering deck. Both cockpits received this treatment.

    Thanks for the input here Stephen. @stephen-w-towle


    Once these items were completed, I buttoned up the assembly by gluing the outer sections to the inner cockpit. It now looks like this:

    Here is a few close ups showing how I draped the HGW fabric seat belts. They are much more detailed that the Eduard set is. You have to actually assemble them before you can install them.



    This next picture shows the two completed cockpits sitting side by side.

    Underneath is a set of oil, hydraulic and coolant lines. These parts were glued in place and will be slightly visible from the landing gear bays when done.

    Here are my thoughts on using the Eduard "LOOK", Yahu and HGW seat harness sets.

    1. The Eduard "Look" set has a nicer looking IP than the Yahu set. Others may not agree with me, but this is what I think. They're more 3 dimensional like the real thing.

    2. The painted steel Eduard seat harness is not nearly as nice as the HGW set is. However, you don't have to spend two days building it either. The Eduard seat harness is very acceptable, and much faster to use. The downside is it is not as easy to position as you would like to. The upside to the Eduard "LOOK" set is it is much less expensive than purchasing the individual Yahu and HGW sets. In this manner, you get a lot for you money.

    3 The Yahu instrument panel is very nice. It looks very good, but lacks a little in the 3 dimension area, since it is mostly flat. What I like the most about this set is how crisp the instruments are, and how nice the glass covers for the instrument dials are done. This looks top notch in this aspect. It was not as expensive as the Eduard "LOOK" set was, but it didn't include the seat harness either.

    4. The HGW seat harness is an absolute gem ! I am very happy with how it turned out in the end. The down side was I was not able to remove the paper backing. I don't know if I ended up with a defective set, as this is possible. The other thing to consider when going this route is you will spend some considerable time assembling this seat harness set. You are paid handsomely once completed though, as it look magnificent to me. The other down side is the total cost. You get what you pay for, so the choice is up to you and how much you want to spend.

    Since Revell didn't sell these kits at a very high price to begin with, you can affort to add some aftermarket things if you so desire, and still not break the bank, or get yourself in trouble with SWMBO. Quit smiling, you know exactly what I mean. 😉 I promise honey, this is the last kit I'm buying this year. Now we are in 2022 so things are good again.

    As this comes to a close tonight, I feel very good about both of these options. The kit provided IP is also very nice, so in reality, you could probably just get away with an aftermarket seat harness if you took a little time. I'm thinking about adding some wiring to the biggest box located behind the pilot's seat, as shown in this next photo.

    As always, comments are encouraged. Good night.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Both cockpits look wonderful, my friend @lgardner. Thanks for all amazing info regarding the extras.
    Finally, thanks for info on Ed Malo.
    This is such an amazing build thread!

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    Tom Cleaver said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    I have to say, to my eye, having been around plenty of old airplane seat belts, the Eduard set looks better. That HGW set doesn't look very real at all - I know you had problems getting it off its backing, but that's not what it is. The seatbelts just look like flopping cloth, and that's in the design, not the a problem from the applier.

    Other than that, the cockpits look overall excellent.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Fantastic looking interiors, Louis @lgardner
    Thanks for all the provided information regarding the add ons.
    It would be a great remembrance to build a replice of Ed Malo's P47.

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    Stephen W Towle said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    https://warbirdsnews.com/warbird-restorations/dakota-territory-air-museums-p-47-update-june-2020.html

    American Aviation is restoring a P-47 Razor Back . . . is using a 70+ year old airframe as a template to make a flyer. As long as the build plate is attached its original or some percentage of the original DNA can be found on the airframe. If you follow their blog they ordered up to 800 pounds of rivets to build this project. This might be of help in your research Louis.

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Spiros, @fiveten
    Thank you for the kind words. You would have really enjoyed talking with Ed Malo. Especially since both of you flew military aircraft. One of these days I will build a P-47 and it will be wearing the markings of the plane that he flew. When this time comes, I will definitely let you know. Take care my friend.

    Tom, @tcinla
    Thanks for the comments about the seat harness. We all have our own thoughts and I'm OK with what you believe. After all, this is what makes the world go 'round. But in my opinion, I personally like the HGW harness better, for two reasons. First, it is far more detailed. It's more 3D than the Eduard set. Secondly, it is easier to pose because it is made from laser etched fabric (or textile materials). This also has another added benefit of replicating the cloth look. The down side to the HGW set is that it is more expensive than the Eduard "LOOK" set. It also takes a lot more time to assemble it.

    If you are pressed for time, then by all means the Eduard set is the better choice. They are also a lot less expensive. Both look good when installed. I wish I could have removed the paper backing from this set. I have another HGW set for a 1/32 Revell He-219... So look for it to show up soon. Thanks again.

    John, @johnb
    Thank you for the compliments on the cockpits. They are good enough for most right out of the box, with the only thing "extra" that is needed, would be to add a seat harness. Yes, I too think it would be a good idea to build a P-47 in remembrance of Ed Malo. I will be sure to let you know as well when I start it up.

    Stephen, @stephen-w-towle
    Dude ! I was blown away by this P-47 restoration ! Thank you SO much for the link. I spent several HOURS looking and drooling over the quality of work they are doing with this restoration. It will definitely be VERY useful when the time comes to build up Ed's plane.

    I don't know if I mentioned this to you before or not. When I was a little boy, we had a local museum called the "Museum of Speed" , and it was located right on US-1 in South Daytona, right down the street from where we lived at the time. My Dad would take me there regularly, as they had a P-47N sitting outside the museum on display, along with a recently de-milled US Army missile. This P-47N was actually flown in to the Daytona Beach International Airport, and it was serving with the Puerto Rico Air National Guard. It was actually TOWED on the public streets from the airport to the Museum of Speed at night !

    By the time I started playing in this plane, it had been sitting outside for at least 13 years or more. My Dad would pick me up and set me on the wing, then he would climb up and open the canopy. He would sit me in the pilot's seat and I would move the joystick around, fascinated all the while. After several minutes, Dad would get me out of the plane and then close the canopy again... Then one day "my" P-47 was gone, and I no longer got to play anymore in it.

    Here are some pictures I found online of the very same P-47N. This picture was actually posted by the pilot who flew the plane in to Daytona.


    Here's the Museum of Speed. Sadly it is no longer there, only a vacant field exists today where it once stood.

    These pictures were taken shortly after the P-47 arrived in Daytona. Bill France, the man who started NASCAR racing in Daytona Beach, is in these pictures along with the pilot and several other people.


    Lastly this is how I remember the T-Bolt.


    Someday I might also try to build this plane too. I did a little research on Lt. Ralph Delgado. He's the pilot that flew the P-47N in from P.R. He actually got credit for downing a Me-262 during the later stages of WW2. Here he is after the airial engagement when he downed the 262.

    This is his P-51D named "ACHTUNG". This is the plane he was flying when the 262 was downed.

    This next screen shot shows what happened to the Museum of Speed P-47N.

    The wings were used to get this P-47 repaired and flying again.

    Here's one of the wings from the Museum of Speed P-47N undergoing restoration a while ago.

    Thank you VERY much for sharing the link on the P-47 restoration. I will definitely be following it from now on.

    Today I made more progress so here we go !