A Tale Of Five P-38 Lightnings (Maybe Six)

Started by Carl Smoot · 65 · 3 years ago
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    Spiros Pendedekas said 3 years, 10 months ago:

    ...but there’s also quite a bit of satisfaction in being able to look at models as a means to an end (i.e. acquiring a sample of an aircraft).

    That makes two of us, Carl @clipperboat!

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    Carl Smoot said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Well, some modelers have denigrated the Hobby Boss P-38 kit for some accuracy issues and there are a few. But what cannot be denied is the ease and quick satisfaction that comes with putting the fuselage and wing assembly together on this kit. With a single piece top and bottom half, it goes together quickly and gives immediate satisfaction. Additionally, there are no boom alignment issues like what you would have with Academy, Monogram, and Hasegawa P-38 kits. I can't speak for the Tamiya kit yet, but my understanding is that it is is also much easier to assemble.

    As for accuracy issues with the Hobby Boss kit, so far they have been relatively easily corrected. The kit is surprisingly nice given my experience in the past with the Trumpeter 1/32 P-38. That kit drove me away from modeling for almost a decade.

    Anyway, I've just assembled the lower and upper halves. Seams have to be cleaned up still, but the fit is good and the seam clean up will be less than the traditional P-38 assembly.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Big and beautiful!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Coming together quite nicely, Carl.

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    Carl Smoot said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Major seams are cleaned up, surface detail has been restored and the vertical stabilizers added.

    I also added a left wing leading edge light. The kit comes with one on each wing molded in (no clear parts) but the actual aircraft only has one on the left wing. I cut it out, fitted a piece of acrylic rod, drilled a small indentation on the backside to simulate the bulb, painted it white, epoxied the acrylic rod in place and then sanded and shaped it the next day. Learned this trick from Rodney Williams about 25 years ago. Thanks Rodney.

    The cowlings had the small scoops drilled out on both sides and the oil cooler scoops cut away. I'll be adding some mesh behind those as soon as I receive it. The kit has these weird clear parts to glue in the sides of the cowlings. I suspect the pattern maker thought the polished ovals on the real aircraft were windows (they're not). Weirder still, the clear parts are circular. Anyway, I glued them in and puttied over them.

    Next up is to cut off the gun barrels on the nose and replace them with metal barrels made for the P-38M Night Lightning. I am probably a week or so away from painting depending on other things in my life and arrival of the mesh screens.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    This is a good solid progress, Carl @clipperboat!

    Those Hobbyboss clear parts "renditions" were funny indeed. Good that with some filling all will be normal. I am still amazed to see such funny things in some "modern" kits. These days, a proper research is absolutely necessary, before issuing a new kit and, to be frank, I don't believe it's that hard...

    By the way, any news from Rodney? He seems to be offline for a long time...

    Looking forward to your next steps, Carl!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Good progress, Carl.
    Those metal barrels will definitely look great.
    A very nice solution for that leading light.
    Another great trick, out of many I've seen, from Rodney.

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    Erik Gjørup said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Homemade clear parts and hollowed out openings - always great stuff that improves things a lot 😉

    Very nice details here Carl (@clipperboat)

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    Carl Smoot said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Thanks Spiros, Erik, and John. Although it does have some faults, so far all of them have been correctible and it does build up quite easily. I especially like the quick satisfaction of having a Lightning appear with the simple upper and lower half assembly.

    I think adding the little details are what help a model stand out more. I am still trying to get better control over my performing these changes, but eye sight is not what it was when I was younger. This model will be an interesting challenge when it comes time to paint as it is a black scheme.

    I am planning on using multiple shades of black and dark grey and other techniques I can track down for black painted aircraft. I am also going to take some artistic license with the scheme. The actual aircraft were used very little, in fact I am not even sure they saw any combat. But I will be making mine a combat veteran so I can practice more weathering.

    I have not heard anything from Rodney in a long time. I hope he's okay. He was an inspiration to me back in the 80's and 90's. We spent some time together not only at his home, but at the IPMS Nationals in Washington DC (although I cannot remember the year).

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    Carl Smoot said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    I've gotten some more work done on the P-38M. I will be the first to admit that my skills as a modeler and attention to detail are not necessarily in the same league as some of the other fine modelers in this site, but I appreciate the chance to participate.

    The Hobby Boss kit is a P-38L and I needed parts from the old Monogram P-38 kit to make the M Night Lightning version. This includes the radome. I could see from looking at pictures that the Monogram part was too short in length and that the mount was not the same, so I did some mods to get it closer. The kit has virtually no landing gear well detail so I did some imagineering here. Also missing in the kit were the shell ejection ports so these are being added as well. I made them a bit too big, but I think after painting they will be okay. I am currently waiting on some mesh for the radiator housings on the booms and for the oil coolers in the cowlings. When that arrives, I'll get those parts added and then should be close to painting.

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    Tom Cleaver said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    The night fighter P-38s never got closer to combat than Fresno Army Air Field, despite the many rumors and tall tales. You should do it with little weathering. While the airplanes were painted gloss black, giving the model a coat of satin clear will result in a more realistic finish in scale. Doing actual "gloss" makes it look like a toy.

    Of course there is always the light grey "turbo stain" atop the booms aft of the turbos, which is about the only weathering you need to worry about.

    You're doing very nice work with a kit that hasn't gotten a lot of love from people.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Your job looks really great, Carl!

    And thumbs up for your imageneering!

    I am also a warm supporter of @tcinla 's suggestion of not going for a 100% gloss model, as the finished model will indeed look like a toy. I have made this mistake on a quarter scale Monogram Black Widow and it looks, well, awful, especially if you notice the engine staining/sooting under that ungainly gloss...(will remedy it soon, though...).

    About your skills, I find them excellent, among the top ones here; but, the magic of this site is that comparison/competition issues are not parts of its aura: only the pure pleasure of admiring each modeler's work and, possibly, constructive commenting reside "here".

    Looking forward to this P-38 super build!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    To me your skills are of high standard, Carl. @clipperboat
    This can be clearly seen in the work that you put in these P38's.
    Most important is that modelling gives you satisfaction and that you get the result you were aiming for.
    Current progress looks great.

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    Erik Gjørup said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    First of all - your skills are in the high end. Some may be able to get it just a bit better, but then again is that not what it is all about; having the utmost fun while improving as we progress through more builds?

    And to get back to your build in general - I love the imagineering! When it comes to colors I say go for it - your description of how you will proceed will make for a very interesting finished plane. Looking forward to the time when paint is due!

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    Carl Smoot said 3 years, 9 months ago:

    Thanks Tom, Spiros, John, Erik. I very much appreciate the attitude of everyone here in regards to what this site is all about. Its very refreshing compared to other places on the web. I appreciate the mixture of encouragement and critique without getting nasty or overally critical. Along with a few other things , this drove me from the hobby previously a decade ago.

    As regards the build, I have decided that regardless of the fact that these aircraft had not seen combat or even extensive service use, I am going to build mine as a war veteran. I am doing this because I want to experiment with black finishes. So there's no worry about a glossy black P-38. Hopefully what I will get is something more like the P-61s, and night bombers of the RAF. A weathered multi-toned black finish. I'm mulling over a fictitious nose art as well so that I can experiment with a new Silhouette Portrait 3 making masks.

    The Hobby Boss kit has mostly been without drama. It goes together well, fit is mostly good although the seams along the sides of the booms and nose will need a bit of filler. Perhaps with just a bit more care, the seams would line up just right, but as is, I had a very small amount of stepping that had to be taken care of.

    Something else I wanted to touch on. I've had good luck using small amounts of Cyanoacrylate glue and zip kicker accelerator for small repairs. If the area is small and the accelerator is used and then clean up is performed within a short period afterwards, the CA sands out nicely. Not too hard. If you let it fully cure, then it becomes a chore to sand, but for quick fill ins of small areas, it's great.

    For areas where there are seams and you either don't want to putty and sand or you want to maintain detail, Mr Surfacer 500 allowed to dry and cleaned up with alcohol and a cotton swab works great. I plan on using this approach for the boom radiator housings.

    This photo of the rudder seam above the horizontal stabilizer is one of those areas treated in this fashion. The vertical stabilizer parts slide in from the rear on this kit and there is a bit of a gap, but after using the Mr Surfacer on it, it looks like a molded panel line.