Finemolds, 1:48 Scale A5M4, "Kansen", (Claude)

Started by Frederick J Seitz III · 21 · 7 years ago
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    Frederick J Seitz III said 7 years, 1 month ago:

    That's the stuff! SAC Bomber Tan, FS# 34201, really looks like the color found on parts of crashed Zeros. It is NOT the same as IJN Light grey either. Good catch, Louis! LOL

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    Frederick J Seitz III said 7 years ago:

    The kit is good enough, that I bought a second one...just received it in the mail yesterday!
    YAAAAAY!
    Wingsy however is also releasing a -4, and, based on the -2b I have in the stash, it will be a real gorgeous kit itself. In my opinion, you can't go wrong either way!
    Wingsy is also hard at work tooling their new tool, Ki-51 Army Cooperation Plane, or "Sonja". I'm looking forward to that too!

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    Louis Gardner said 7 years ago:

    You're welcome Freddie... Glad I could help.

    It's not even close to the IJN Light Gray color is it ? I'm seriously thinking about re-painting two of my A6M's now since the color match is spot on. I erroneously painted mine in the Light Gray many years ago, but that was before recent studies showed the correct colors. Back then it was presumed to be proper...

    I have looked at reviews of the Wingsy kits and they really look good too. I have an old Nichimo Ki-51, but that is great news about a new release kit of it. I'll try to grab one of those once they become available.

    You can never have too many... 🙂

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    Bernard E. Hackett, Jr. said 7 years ago:

    Louis, there are a couple of different IJN greys, Mitsubishis and Nakajimas. The color depends on the manufacturer, if you can figure that out. The AK acrylic IJN paint set I have also says there were two greys from Mitsubishi (apparently) What they call J3 Hai iro, 1937-40, and J3 (SP) Special paint of light metals (new one on me) 1940 on.
    Where Ame-iro comes in, is anyones guess.
    Clear as mud, isn't it?
    I would also think that fading over use would also play a part.

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    Louis Gardner said 7 years ago:

    Hey Bernard.

    I'm not 100 percent sure about this, but my understanding on the two shades of gray colors you mentioned were used on the later A6M Zeros. Nakajima had one shade of Gray, and Mitsubishi had another gray that was a little different. These manufacturers also used a slightly different demarcation line on the side of the fuselage on the Zero, between the green and the gray colors. Nakajima used one style to break the colors and Mitsubishi used another. The same was true with the cockpit colors... Mitsubishi used one color, while Nakajima used another...

    I agree, confusing to say the least.

    There was a whole set of colors used by the Japanese throughout the War, ranging from various shades of red, blue, yellow, silver / aluminum, greens, browns etc. ... It was pretty comparable to the set of colors used by the US or even the RLM with their unique numbering system.

    From what I have gathered by looking at photos of relics and souvenirs from crashed or shot down planes, the Ame-Iro color actually held up pretty well, as long as it was not exposed for a really long time to the elements. One "Ame-Iro" photo I saw actually had a watch held up in the reflection and you could see the watch pretty clearly in the reflection of the paint. It was a fairly glossy finish to begin with. But as any paint will do, the color would start to become chalky in appearance after a while.

    There is a lot of debate as to what colors were used and when. This is only my perception, and may not be 100 percent correct. But I really think it's pretty close.

    Also German RLM 02 is a fairly close match to "Ame-Iro". But then again, it all boils down to lighting, photography methods and the condition of the actual sample used for a comparison.

    Some samples actually started to shine again after a little polishing...

    Freddie, after looking at how nice your plane turned out, my kits are moving closer to the top of the "To build soon" pile... If the Ki-51 Sonya is as nice as this one, they will have a winner on their hands. I'll have to get one... or two...

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    Bernard E. Hackett, Jr. said 7 years ago:

    Louis, sometimes I think the AMS has done got me. I'll vary the colors, and see how they look. The topside greens are another can of worms.