Monogram 1/48 B-24D/J Combo Build, "The Squaw", "Flak Alley" and "Tubarao" Combo Build

Started by Walt · 462 · 2 years ago · B-24, B-24D, Flak Alley, Monogram 1/48, Sleepy, The Squaw, Tubarao
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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    You definitely treated yourself with an amazing Christmas present, Walt @luftwaffe-birdman
    Is a resin printer comparable to a 3D printer, at least the detailing of those guns is fantastic.

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    Eric Berg said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Walt @luftwaffe-birdman - Amazing rivets. What is your secret for getting them nice and straight? Some sort of flexible straight edge? Plus a lot of patience?

    By the way, Michael B. over at Cybermodeler treated himself to a 3D resin printer and has been running a series of articles how it all works etc. Worth checking out.

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Walt, @luftwaffe-birdman
    Those printed Ma Deuce's look MUCH better than what comes in the kit. Personally I have fired the .050 caliber on many occasions. They had several different variations of it in service at the same time. The ones that look like your parts were mainly used while mounted on a vehicle, or they were used with a tripod when it was deployed by Infantry troops. The ones used in the waist gunner's positions were also very close to what you have made. They used the "butterfly" trigger assembly and the twin hand grips. Other variations of the .050 were used with a breech mounted electronic solenoid that was connected to the aircraft's wiring. When activated, the solenoid would cause the MG to fire.

    I am VERY impressed with how these bad boys turned out... The details are incredible. Here I am standing next to the .050 mounted in the Port side waist gunner' position in a B-24J.


    Here is a better close up of the .050 MG. You can also see the different colors in use here. The fold up door was painted "Bronze Green", and the rest of the nearby interior section was "Interior Green".

    This next picture was taken from just ahead of the bomb bay, while looking forward. I you look very close you can see the cockpit. These planes are cramped inside, even though they look so big from the outside.

    This is a decent picture showing the instrument panel. The red box on the top right hand section of the IP is what they called the "panic button". This would activate a series of small explosive charges when pressed. It was used with a timer, and allowed the crew to destroy the aircraft if they thought it would possibly end up in enemy hands.

    This is a picture taken from directly behind the pilots seat. This was part of the Flight Engineer's position. Notice the "Bronze Green" color.

    This next photo shows the "cat walk" inside the bomb bay. The bomb bay was left in a natural clear anodized aluminum color on this particular aircraft. This particular photo was taken looking aft. You can just see part of the ball turret.

    I have a bunch more pictures stored on my cell phone. This is just a tip of the iceberg. Hope this helps. I do have more photos coming up soon.

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    Walt said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    The resin 3D printer works different than a filament printer. You use a liquid UV reactive resin to build your parts from. Because it is a liquid cured by light, each layer can and I am guessing has to be thinner than your filament printers which extrude a melted plastic thread. I am just learning but it is really amazing technology. When I was working for a medical device company that was developing a new device, we often would have test parts printed. The fidelity and accuracy was good enough to test fit and function. That was my first exposer to 3D printing and I have been interested in getting into as it became more affordable. I only paid $220 for the printer which is very affordable to get your feet wet and give it a try. The resin runs $30-40 per 1000 G and comes in a variety of colors including a variety of tinted clears. I am hoping to print more in the future for other kits as I go along.

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Here are a few more pictures I had taken and stored on our computer.
    This is the throttle quadrant.


    The rest of the pictures are on my cell. I will post up some more pictures of the bomb bay soon.
    One of these days I might just have to treat myself for one of these printers too. The parts you made using yours are incredibly detailed.

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    Walt said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Louis, @lgardner, thanks for some more great pictures. You are correct the file I loaded down for the 50 cal was on a tripod, and had the barrel seen on vehicles, not aircraft. At this scale and inside the plane I will let the super critics point out that it is wrong 😉 . I am really thinking of trying to create oxygen tanks...almost every picture you show has them in it. The larger yellow and the portable green ones. I made them for my B-17 and thought they were ok, but not great and took time to make. It should be an easier project for trying to create something on the free cad software and learn from it.

    Thanks, Eric, @eb801, for the kind words about my rivets. They are a challenge and have plenty of areas where I am not completely happy with them. Luckily panel lines tend to be straigh and if going along the length of the fuselage or wing I used a metal ruler as a guide. Going around the curves of the fuselage I either used a flexible metal guide or just went slow freehand. The new excel riveters are easier to use and see what you are doing because of how they are designed. I think I will mosey on over to Cybermodeler when I can and check out what Michael B. is doing with his printer. Thanks for the tip.

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Walt, @luftwaffe-birdman
    Here are some more photos from the B-24. Going back to your .050... I think that your comments about it are spot on. A good portion of the weapons receiver is hidden by the MG mount. Some of the late war crew served MG's had an electronic sight. It had the gunner dial in the wingspan of the aircraft he was going to be firing at, and it calculated the wind age and elevation, theoretically improving the chances of getting a hit. Here is a decent picture I took from inside a B-17G. This photo is showing not only the mount, but also the gun sight.


    This next picture is a close up of one of the bomb release shackles. I took this photo from inside "Witchcraft".

    These smaller shackles could be added to the bomb rack as needed, and they also had a provision for manually releasing the bomb. These were interchangeable between various aircraft.


    This next photo shows a partial view of the Starboard side forward bomb racks. This picture was taken while I was looking towards the rear, and Port side. This is the front bomb bay. You can see the various holes in the rack. This allowed the shackles to be connected at various spots. The diameter of the bomb, combined with the total bomb load weight, was the deciding factor as to how these were positioned in the rack. The aluminum colored thing with all the rivets is the underside of the wing.

    Here you can see a replica 500 pound bomb in the forward bomb bay. This would have been on the Port side, looking aft. The rear section of the bomb bay can also be seen. The rear bomb bay also has a replica bomb in it, and it is visible in this photo.

    This shows you how the bombs were attached to the shackles. This is a bomb located in the Starboard side, looking forward.

    This next picture shows more of the cat walk, and the "almost" empty bomb bay. This is the forward most Starboard side bomb bay. You can see a replica 500 pound bomb suspended on the forward Port side rack.

    These next two pictures show you more of the bomb bay and how it looks with several 500 pound bombs hanging in the rack. Up first is the Port side, looking forward. This is the forward bomb bay.

    Next is the Starboard side, also looking forward, and also the forward bay.

    Since you mentioned the small portable oxygen tanks, here is a picture of one for you.

    Each one of the waist gunners had a large wooden ammunition box, which was loaded with a belt of ammunition. The rear turret had a box on each side of the fuselage. This is a picture of the ammo box for the tail turret, on the Starboard side of the fuselage. The Port side was almost a mirror image of this side.

    These boxes had a series of small holes in them, that allowed the gunner to make a quick visual and see how much more of the ammunition belt was left.


    This is the "catwalk" going from the rear turret, to the waist gunner's positions. If you look closely, you can see the ball turret. I took this picture looking forward, from the rear turret.

    This is another entry into / from the aircraft. This is located on the lower portion of the rear fuselage section.

    This next photo shows this location a little bit better.

    This next picture I took shows how the ball turret was installed. It fed the gunner oxygen by a nearby O2 bottle.

    This shows the entrance to the ball turret.

    followed by another picture of the ball turret. I think the non slip flooring "could" have been added for safety reasons. I don't know if this feature was present on WW2 aircraft or not.

    Here is a better close up photo I took, that shows the wooden ammunition boxes that held ammo for the waist gunners. The B-17 had a similar feature.

    Look really close, and you can see the cables that are connected to the control surfaces on this next picture.
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    I'm ending this set of pictures with a nice picture of the Pilot's seat. Check out the "Bronze Green" color.

    This one is zoomed in a little closer.

    Hope these helps you.
    Thanks

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Wonderful progress, my friend @lutwaffe-birdman!
    Wonderful pics, my friend @lgardner!

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Thanks for sharing that printer background, Walt @luftwaffe-birdman
    What an amazing pictures, Louis @lgardner. Walking through it must have already been wonderful but were you also able to have a seat in it while airborne?

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    Louis Gardner said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Thanks gentlemen for the compliments on the pictures. I posted them up so that Walt @luftwaffe-birdman
    and Spiros @fiveten
    (or anyone else who might be using this build journal as a reference), could use them if they wanted to do any additional scratch building on their B-24.
    John, @johnb
    As far as flying in this plane, I have not. I have flown in several WW2 era aircraft. I flew in a Stearman PT-17, a Ryan PT-22, a Waco UPF-7, and an AT-6 / SNJ. One day I hope to get a ride in one of these big bombers.

    Here is the closest I have been to taking a seat..


    But it was still parked on the ground.

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    Spiros Pendedekas said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Even sitting in a B-24 cockpit makes you a lucky man, my friend @lgardner!
    This is an amazing pic!

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    Eric Berg said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    @lgardner - Louis: those are terrific photos you shot inside the Collings' B-24 and that certainly is a nice one of you in the pilot's seat. A B-24 vet once described to me how frightening it was to walk that catwalk on his very first mission at age 19 on Christmas Eve and looking down with the doors open over some European city while trying to dislodge a stuck bomb that no one else want to touch. Because he was the newbie in the crew, he got that task.

    Walt @luftwaffe-birdman Here's the link to Michael Benolkin's 4 part 3D resin printer article:

    https://www.cybermodeler.com/special/3d_01.shtml

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    Walt said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    Thanks Eric, @eb801, for the link I read all four of his installments, and can say my experiences are fairly similar. I purchased the Elegoo Mars 2 Pro, and their Mercury X Washing & Developing stations. My first print went well, I had issues with the Washer that did not work from the unboxing, but I have since fixed. The developer is AWESOME, and I would say a lot better than the one Michael purchased. Like him my second print which was of my 50 caliber machine gun bodies failed to print. It was due to improper setting of Home on the Z-Axis, which is critical. I would also agree it is not rocket science and someone moderately competent both mechanically and computer, would be successful. Lastly I am not shy about using what other people have done, as I don't want to set out to reinvent the wheel, but I too want to create my own files. There are plenty of free "Autocad" softwares that you can use on line, that vary in difficulty and quality. I will be using them as I am not in a position to afford an anual subscription.

    I have the idea that some of these after market guys, could now just sell you the file, to use at home, and you print your own parts. I know there may be an issue of sharing the files, but I think it may be a way to easily share builds. I know I just saw Gaspatch Models has released their Me163 with and upgrade printed resin detail kit.

    I will take pictures of my equipment and the Norden Bombsites I printed last night and post tonight.

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    John vd Biggelaar said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    An amazing experience it must haver been, Louis @lgardner, the smile tells a lot.
    Those pictures will definitely be of great help to Walt @luftwaffe-birdman, or anyone else like you mentioned.

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    Walt said 2 years, 10 months ago:

    I found a file for what was supposed to be a 1/16 scale Norden Bombsight. I downloaded it and looked up measurements of the bombsite on line. I loaded it into my printer program and scaled it based on it being 1/16 scale, which put the Z-axis at 11.91mm to convert it to 1/48. I printed up a batch on basic setting and they turned out pretty nice, just too big.

    I had an old Monogram B-17 interior from a scrapped kit, and measured it out and determined I was probably almost 2mm too tall. I loaded up the sites again changed the Z-axis to 10mm and changed my slices from 0.05mm to 0.025mm and printed up another batch. These actually look about right, some parts smaller then the injection molding but over all length, width and height matching pretty close to the kit. The details are different but I think once painted will look pretty good. By reducing the slice thickness the detail in the smaller print was actually better.

    I will be putting this in the nose compartment of my B-24.

    8 attached images. Click to enlarge.